03Shadowbob
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Man do I love BBQ and guns! It's the perfect combination.
3rdpig said:I've been a gun enthusiast for going on 40 years but I don't have a clue what a "Barbeque gun" is, or what "gnurled, pearled and squirreled" means.
Also, anyone who touts a magazine safety as being a valuable feature doesn't know much about guns or self defense, from that point on you lost all credibility with me.
And I hate to tell you this son, but NO ONE buys a Vette for reliabilty, gas mileage or low cost of maintaining it.
GaryArkansas said:Well boys, you seemed to illustrate the exact point I was trying to make, I.E. - You're saying that your gun is better than my gun because you paid more for it. You're telling me I'm a bad guy because I own a gun that will fire when I want it to fire. Hmm, my gun sounds exactly like your gun. Not as elegant or expensive perhaps, but it performs its essential function - it fires a projectile.
Yes, your gun may be prettier, more accurate, and certainly more expensive. But at self-defense distances, I can put 100 out of 100 rounds in an IDPA target without a misfeed or an FTE. Can you say that?
I see that some of you are getting pretty worked up over it. First of all, watch my lips - I never said Hi-Point was a better gun than anything. I just told you that it does exactly what it is asked to do. It does this at a price that is a fraction of what you paid for your gun. I also said that the people who criticize this gun likely don't use or own it. The stories of "my buddy" are just that - stories. Even Glocks and SIGs will occasionally jam out of the box - tell the truth now.
I've yet to see a single one of you who have disabused me of that notion. You've raised some interesting points, however, none of them stand up to water when you utilize the standard I pointed out.
Some of you have used foul language. Some of you have thrown insults. Some of you have attempted to use logic in a way that is kinda fun to watch. Go ahead, make your best argument. I'm a big boy, and it don't hurt my little feelers none at all.
Ya know, its really funny. A magazine disconnect, in some of your minds, makes a gun worthless. I have lost all credibility in some of your minds because of that point. Tell me, just exactly why is it you say that? Have you ever been shot because you can't manually load a round? Any of you? Have you ever heard of even a single, documented, report of this happening anywhere in the world in all recorded history? Nope, I didn't think so. Kinda deflates that whole argument, doesn't it?
Are you the same guys that think there's an international conspiracy because Smith & Wesson now has a locking trigger? I Haven't heard of a locking trigger ever failing because of the existence of that lock (Smith & Wesson hasn't experienced that either).
Answer one more question - What will your autoloader do that mine will not? Will your gun shoot a bullet mine can't? Do your bullets possess some magical properties that mine don't? Does your gun help you with the ladies? (Just kidding on that last one).
As to what I carry, it is a snub revolver in .357. It will work every time I pull the hammer. If it doesn't, I'll pull the hammer again. And you know something else? Its a modern design (Oh no, hide the kids, the world is ending).
Oh well, I'm tired of playing. E-mail me when one of you comes up with a decent, logical argument. In the meantime, go read the reviews about Hi-Point guns. You might be surprised.
Ya want hugely problematic? Hugely problematic would be Glocks with improperly supported chambers, that happen to explode unexpectedly.
People are talking out of both sides of their mouth, saying on one hand that it'll blow up in your face, then turning around and calling it a huge chunk of steel. Which one is it guys?
Stage2 wrote, "Once again Gary, you are glossing over my post as well as the posts of other with 1st hand experience of the hi-point being a hugely problematic gun."
The reviewers who have objectively evaluated the Hi-Point would disagree with you as to it being "hugely problematic." Its easy to beat down anything if you're biased against it in the first place. For the 99th time, I'm not saying Hi-Point is better - just that you guys seem physically incapable of being objective. (I'd hate to have you on my jury if I got arrested.)
Some of the guys who have posted here are simply wrong. One poster said the Hi-Point has the magazine release on the bottom of the mag. Wrongo - its in the same place as everybody else's. People are talking out of both sides of their mouth, saying on one hand that it'll blow up in your face, then turning around and calling it a huge chunk of steel. Which one is it guys?
Jammomatic, wrong again. The reviewers (and not all of them gun writers) have uniformly discussed this C9's reliability.
Ya want hugely problematic? Hugely problematic would be Glocks with improperly supported chambers, that happen to explode unexpectedly. When you guys are bashing Hi-Point, you seem to forget little things like that.
Some of them may be a piece of crap. Mine went bang for about 500 or 600 rds before I sold it. And never a failure. Can you say the same about all of your guns?
Answer one more question - What will your autoloader do that mine will not? Will your gun shoot a bullet mine can't? Do your bullets possess some magical properties that mine don't?
Yes, your gun may be prettier, more accurate, and certainly more expensive. But at self-defense distances, I can put 100 out of 100 rounds in an IDPA target without a misfeed or an FTE. Can you say that?