Hi-Power Help PLEASE

[Carbon_15]

I got my first BHP this weekend and couldnt get to the range fast enough. My excitment quickly faded. Something wont reset properly. If you manualy cycle the slide with the trigger forward it works fine. But when the slide cycles with the trigger held back (as during fireing) the gun will not fire. the gun is in battery, and nothing else seems to be wrong, but the hammer wont fall. The trigger just moves freely.
I think the magazine safety has been removed, could that cause this problem?
Its a Silver Chrome model with the external extracter.
Anyone have any ideas...i can post pictures of the internals if it would help.

 

[MrAcheson]

If the mag safety is out, then they had work done on the gun. Sounds like they did a crappy trigger job and screwed up the reset.

Its possible that they just didn't account for the extra tension needed in the return spring. Originally some of the force supplied by the mag safety helped the trigger reset, but without the safety some guns need a little tweak to add a little tension back. If that is the case, try putting a little more tension on the return spring and see if it resets properly.

I could be completely off here though. Sorry your having so much trouble with it. I love my BHP.

 

[Carbon_15]

try putting a little more tension on the return spring

How exactly do I do that? I'm wofully unfarmiliar with BHP's
THX

 

[car541]

Your trigger spring is probably improperly installed, bent or broken. There is a piece pinned to the trigger which sticks upward from the trigger (called the elevator). the elevator, when properly installed is tensioned to the rear by the trigger spring. When the trigger is pulled, the evelator pushes upward on the trigger bar in the slide, which in turn pivots downward tripping the sear.


Upon the weapon cycling with the trigger back, the elevator will be pushed forward by the linkage bar in the slide as the weapon returns to battery (this acts as the disconnector on a HP). Allowing the trigger to go forward, once again lowers the elevator, which will then spring back under the linkage bar in the slide.

If the evelator is not being pushed by the spring to pivot back (away from the muzzle) , the trigger reset will not work. Brownells sells new springs

Check to make sure that the elevator pivots freely on its pin in the trigger and that the spring pushes it to reset properly. if that is not the problem, there is som issue in the length/ position/relationship of some of the parts in that area that will probably never be properly diagnosed over the internet.

 

[Jim K]

Hi, Carbon15 and car541,

Car 541, your description of the working is correct, but, with all respect, I don't know where you got those terms. If Carbon 15 needs to order parts, the part you call the "elevator" is correctly called the "trigger lever" and the part you call the "trigger bar" or "linkage bar" is the "sear lever".

Also if ordering parts, you need to state the age of the gun, as pre-WWII and wartime guns differ slightly from post-war guns.

Jim

 

[Carbon_15]

You guys were dead on. My local smith tweaked the trigger return spring to give it a little more leverage and it works fine now.
Thanks so much.

 

[car541]

Mr Keenan:
I loooked it up after reading your post.

You are of course correct, I do not know where those names came from. I need to get more sleep........