High-thumbs-up grip on a revolver

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I've had many semis but am new to revolvers. Just got a Ruger SRH Toklat and I've been handling it and dry firing before going to the range. I also looked at a number of videos that discussed grip technique.

Of all techniques the one that feels most comfortable and secure for me is the high-thumbs-up grip as demonstrated by Chris Cerino. Are there any downsides to gripping the revolver in the manner?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ4LLp4xyQQ
 
Works for him, I guess. I'm not a fan of thumb pressure on the gun itself, and I'm not clear on what benefit his thumb pressure offers.
 
Looks like an excellent way to find out how sharp the checkering on your cylinder release are with a heavy load. Might even be good for checking to see if the edges of the cylinder release can double as a bacon slicer.

Might work for him or fifty-seven other experts but for me,

"No, thank you."

-kBob
 
The Toklat is a large enough revolver that I could grip it in the same manner I do all of my semis. If I did, my left thumb would end up 1/2" behind the end of the cylinder. When I grip it in the Cerino method, the tip of my left thumb ends up nearly touching the left bottom of the rear sight. It is not touching the cylinder at all as we see in the Cerino video.

My left thumb ends up on the cylinder release, no doubt about it. There isn't checkering on it as there is on the trigger. There are three grooves and they are fairly smooth. We'll see, I will start out with cowboy action rounds then work up to 45LC rounds. Only when I am comfortable with that progress, after having shot several hundred rounds, will I try a full-house 454 casull round.

For me, the benefit of gripping it like this is it allows my left thumb to apply pressure on the frame, the right thumb to apply pressure on the left thumb and it feels more secure in my hand.
 
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wiiawiwb said:
the benefit of gripping it like that is it allows my left thumb to apply pressure on the frame

Using the thumbs to put pressure on the frame doesn't enhance grip, so other than "feeling" more secure, what benefit does it offer?
 
I can't provide you with any other benefit yet as I haven't shot it. I watched a few videos with Jerry Miculek and its not the way he holds a revolver. Having said that Miculek has hands the size of a virginia ham. After I watched Chris Cerino's video (remember he was on Top Shot twice and is a heck of a shooter not just some hack putting up a video on YouTube) it just felt more secure while I gripped it.

When I go to the range today to shoot it, I will try several gripping methods. It will be interesting to see if the same secure feeling translates when I shoot it. I'll report back.
 
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I don't think you understand. If you grip it like Cerino with full-house .454 or Ruger-only .45Colt, it's going to break your thumb. You need all body parts out of the way of everything that could potentially come back and bite you. There's no point in practicing with .45 cowboy loads with a grip that's going to hurt you with .454. Start by doing it right, even if it feels uncomfortable at first. Fold those thumbs down.


Using the thumbs to put pressure on the frame doesn't enhance grip...
I don't agree with this in general but in this particular case, it's going to get the shooter hurt. This is why I warn guys who talk about using the isosceles stance with heavy recoiling revolvers. What works for .38Spl and .45ACP in competition might get you hurt with .44Mag, .454, .480 and beyond.
 
Of all techniques the one that feels most comfortable and secure for me is the high-thumbs-up grip as demonstrated by Chris Cerino. Are there any downsides to gripping the revolver in the manner?

I have not seen anyone grip a revolver like that before.

He says at the beginning of the video that he "does something different than they have in the past". When it comes to shooting revolvers this is not a good thing to hear, in my opinion. I say that because a good many excellent revolver shots have come and gone over the decades, some extraordinary, and while there have been variations in grips used by them I don't believe that this is one.

The downside: It looks like a grip designed to fight recoil by pushing forward and down on the frame with the offhand thumb. This will have a tendency to push the barrel the same way and cause it to dip and point in one direction or the other. With stronger recoiling loads the tendency will be to push harder.

It also seems it will add to any flinch which the shooter may have. There are several different things that are called "flinch" but one of the most common is anticipation of the shot and pushing forward on the gun just as the trigger is pulled or gripping the gun harder. I believe this grip would make that issue worse.

The thumb can also slip easily, it seems, spoiling a shot.

It can also possibly hurt your thumb with heavier recoiling rounds.

So I think there are more downsides than good.

But try it out and see what you think.

I have changed grips a couple of times over the years but each were variations on grips used by top shooters of years past or of the present. Individuals who have made an impact on wheelgunning.

Along with a good set of stocks that fit your hands it has helped me some over the years.

Good luck.

tipoc
 
Well, I went to the range today and shot about 75 rounds of Federal 250gr 45LC. I used the conventional grip only; no Cerino grip. I will give that a try at some point.

I was surprised how little recoil there was. Almost none. My Glock 17 seems to jump around more. I'll keep shooting 45 LC but will start to increase the power of the round until I use a +P one. Maybe a Buffalo Bore 260 gr JHP, 1450 fps.

So far, so good.
 
I just tried that Cerino method and I found that it lifts away my strong hand from contact with the back strap a lot. So a LOT of the recoil is going to go into my weak hand thumb instead of my strong hand palm.

The gun also felt loose in my hands with much of the contact area over wide portions of my strong hand grip lifted off the grip and back strap.

Clearly it works for him. But it would be a very poor way for me with my K frame size guns and my large size hands.
 
Try that with a 454 Casull and you are going to have a bad day. Even with a hot 45 Colt you're gong to regret it.

This seems like a bad idea in general. If it works for him, with powder puff loads, that's fine, but I'll never try this.
 
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