Hiking with a firearm

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Would not be surprised at all to see someone on the trail with a pistol and would treat them no differently. A long arm in off season would be a different story and I would find it a bit strange and don't think many rangers would look kindly on it. This has more to do with hunting though, as hunting licenses are taken more seriously in AZ due to the relative scarcity of certain hunted critters.
 
Nowadays I live in the Ozarks, and often hike the Ozark Highland Trail, much of which runs through the Buffalo National River boundaries. The BNR is the only National Park that allows hunting -- so I carry my Colt Woodsman, and have taken a squirrel or two on the trail.

I'm glad that you mentioned that. I usually hike the Ozark mountain trail, but will have to hike the highland trail in the fall.
 
Anybody in a TN state park might risk a fine or worse (confiscation), if somebody squeals and rangers spot you or your car.

Not true. But you're not allowed the shoot except in self defense. It is perfectly legal if you have a handgun carry permit. A ranger told me just Monday that if there is something odd, they will check for the permit by calling in and hold the firearm before returning the firearm to the individual. I would however recommend against outside carry in a normal TN State Park, but in more remote areas, I think it would be just fine.

As far as the OP's opening statement and questions... I have no problem as long as they act "normal". I'm used to hunters and hunting and I know what normal is.
 
Isn't it illegal to carry a gun in most parks?

In Washington state it is legal:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2457634/posts

Loaded guns now allowed in national parks, wildlife refuges [ Washington State]

ptleader | 2/23/2010 | Patrick J. Sullivan
Posted on February 23, 2010 11:09:38 AM PST by JoeProBono

Loaded guns are now allowed within Olympic National Park and other national parks and wildlife refuges, under a new law that went into effect this week. Federal law continues to prohibit the possession of firearms in designated “federal facilities” within national parks, such as visitor centers, offices or maintenance buildings. These places are posted with “firearms prohibited” signs at public entrances, according to the National Park Service.

Firearms have always been prohibited in national parks, except for some in Alaska and other parks that permit hunting. The law has been that any firearm in a vehicle on national park property must be unloaded and stowed in a case, or dismantled.

Former President George W. Bush pushed the initial legislation in 2008 to change that rule, and it became official in May 2009, when Congress passed it as an amendment to credit-card reform legislation. President Obama signed it into law effective Feb. 22, 2010.

The gun rule change is seen as a victory for advocates of Second Amendment rights and a concern by some who don't see the need to carry firearms in parks unless there is a specific hunting season.

“For nearly 100 years, the mission of the National Park Service has been to protect and preserve the parks and to help all visitors enjoy them,” National Park Service Director Jon Jarvis said in a press release. “We will administer this law as we do all others – fairly and consistently.”

Parks, wildlife refuges

People must simply follow the state law where the federal property is located. Some national parks cross multiple state lines. That's not a problem at Olympic National Park or Dungeness National Wildlife Refuge.

The new law does not change prohibitions on the use of firearms in national parks and does not change hunting regulations. Being allowed to carry a firearm in a national park or wildlife refuge does not come with permission to use it. Again, state laws on gun use also apply.

National wildlife refuges in this part of Washington state include Dungeness, Gray's Harbor, San Juan Islands, Nisqually and the Washington Maritime National Wildlife Refuge, which includes Flattery Rocks, Quillayute Needles, Protection Island and the San Juan Islands.

'Open carry' state

Washington is an "open carry" state, which means, in brief, that visibly carrying holstered handguns in public is lawful. It is how a handgun is used that may make it unlawful, not how it is carried or that it is being carried, according to Washington State Parks' chief of law enforcement in a report last year to Fort Worden State Park.

In terms of guns in vehicles, Washington state allows someone with a concealed-weapon permit to carry the gun loaded and on his person in his vehicle as long as it is concealed from view from outside of the vehicle. Motorists without a concealed weapon permit must transport the weapon unloaded and locked in a container, according to trooper Krista Hedstrom, Washington State Patrol District 8 public information officer.

State Parks rules

The same state RCW about firearms in general applies on Washington State Parks property, reported Kate Burke, Fort Worden Area Parks manager. People with a concealed-weapon permit may carry firearms concealed on their person when in a state park or other public place in Washington.

Many Washington State Parks rangers are armed. Most national park rangers are not armed.
 
Depends on where u r.
In all but the most remote places I'd be wary of people who OC around me. I always have been armed, but, even in the Alaska interior it was OC Bear Spray and shoulder-holstered CC small .44 Mag with Buffalo Bore. Rockies? CC ported small .357 Mag with Federal Vital Shock Core Casts. Elsewhere? CC 4", 11 oz., stainless, five-shot single-action .22 Mag.
 
Let's just say people may have seen someone with an AK in my area and said something to the guy with the AK. They may have been prompted to kick rocks.
 
Personally I've worked up a bear load for the Mosins using 215 grain Woodleigh SP's that I'm hoping will do the trick in a pinch. But most of the interactions around here are with black bear so I mostly just carry the rifle for exercise.

well if that dont work you could aways attach the bayonet, and have an extra 18inches to try and stop the bear



a) id not be suprised to see someone carrying on the trail
b) i would treat them a little differnt, probably talk to them a lil bit if they got a really unique piece on them
 
Colorado? Nope, while it might be unusual for the granola crowd to pack heat open carry in the woods is common. A rifle might get my attention, but more out of curiousity.
 
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I've been a part of a virtually identical discussion on a backpacking forum. Most of the responses were along slightly different lines than those here. :D

I wouldn't necessarily be surprised to see someone carrying. I might treat them differently, however, knowing that they probably share more of my beliefs and political leanings than someone who was not carrying. I might strike up a conversation with them, asking them about their weapon of choice, shooting habits, hunting, fishing, etc.
 
"They may have been prompted to kick rocks."

What does that mean?

Take-off, jam, split, leave.....you get the idea :).

The younger guys on my Work crew (just a point of reference; no age-ism here :D ) seem to use these type of sayings :rolleyes:.
 
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Why would I view a person excercising the Constitutionally protected right to carry a firearm as suspicious or worth of additional attention? It's not the firearm that makes a person suspicious, to me, it's their behavior.

I don't necessarily question the motives of a gun carrier I encounter in the woods. It's just that if a gun is present in a situation, the probability of being shot is infinitely higher than if no gun were present (a zero percent chance versus some non-zero percent chance). It doesn't have to be malicious; it could be misuse, showboatery, or stupidity.

The fact that are visibly carrying a properly holstered firearm, to me, is more of an indication that they are a good guy rather than a bad guy.

Now this makes no sense to me. If a gun is, as you say, a morally neutral object, why would you assume this? I've seen any number of holster-wearing citizens at gun shows I wouldn't care to encounter alone in the woods or anywhere else.

I'm sorry, but to me, your statement leads me to think that you believe the firearm itself somehow has evil associated with it.

I don't associate guns with evil, I associate them with danger. Guns introduce the potential for danger into a situation, nothing more. Given that, why would I not be wary when I encounter in a secluded area with no witnesses, a stranger openly carrying a gun.
 
I always carry a handgun while hiking in the desert around here. Sometimes I also take some sort of long gun.

Most of the land around here is under BLM jurisdiction. In other words, no legal hassles.

It can get sticky with Fish and Game if you are hking around here with a "deer" rifle during deer season and you do not have a deer tag.

Would I be surprised if I see a fellow explorer waling around armed? I am surprised when I see a person period.
 
I don't associate guns with evil, I associate them with danger. Guns introduce the potential for danger into a situation, nothing more. Given that, why would I not be wary when I encounter in a secluded area with no witnesses, a stranger openly carrying a gun.

I'm wary anytime I meet someone in a very secluded area regardless of the known presence of a firearm.

But I think you make a good point. It is a reasonable statement. Encountering someone in the woods carrying a gun is situational in terms of how I react. I generally try NOT to enounter anyone in the woods, but when you are hiking defined trails and especially in parks, you do encounter people close up. I pay attention.

If I am hiking a trail at a state park in my neck of the woods and I observe someone with a rifle and especially a "black rifle", they get my undivided attention until I am a good distance away from them (a 22 less so). Carrying a rifle makes little sense to me unless you are hunting while hiking a defined trail in a state park. Handgun... not so much. Unfortunately, how a gun looks is one of many considerations. I would react differently if I was just "out in the woods" on private land in terms of the rifle vs handgun, because I might well have a rifle with me too. Again... it's situational as to how I react.
 
Kelt-Tec Sub 2000 .40SW , folds up easy into a day pack , uses auto pistol magazines ,is really light weight , totally concealable , it folds in half , not only is this a valuable survival tool , its great protection and if your thrown into a survival situation , this could be your bread winner for game ,easy to shoot , in a firefight , it could be your defense ,its accurate enough that you could kill an attacker or game alike!
 
A. I wouldn't be surprised
B. I wouldn't treat them any different as long as the went on their way.

I live in Indiana and if I passed someone on the trail with a long gun it would raise my eyebrow. A handgun would not bother me.
 
I can answer the first two in my case. A. I wouldn’t be shocked at all by someone open carrying a gun. Makes good sense to me. B. I wouldn’t treat the hiker any different. Wave, say hi, maybe ask what they chose to carry and why. A long gun might be a little different if not hunting season. I would expect that LE would frown on this as they would assume you were hunting illegally. Also a long gun is heavy and more awkward than a holstered handgun. If you plan to do a lot of hiking and it is legal where you live upgrade your caliber choice for those occasions.
 
"I am wary of anyone else I meet when I am in the woods alone. I assume they feel the same way about me. If they have a visible gun, I am even more wary. Ditto if they see one on me. It's just common sense."

So what you are saying is that people that carry guns are strange, different, unreliable, scary, what exactly??? Isn’t that the argument that anti-gun folks use against all of us? Not trying to start a fight or anything but don’t you see how you play right into the hands of the anti-gun folks. I’m not saying not to be wary of strangers you meet but a lot of factors go into my judgment of a stranger. Not just the fact that they are carrying a gun in the woods.
 
I see people all the time carrying, no biggie. A lot of the quad riding folk pack also. Sheep are scared of the woods.
1stMarine: How was the walk,lol
 
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