Hmmm a P6 Sig for $350..

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Now the manufacture date code on the slide says 9/79.

I understand they won't feed hollowpoints.

Now this gun is well used but the frame rails have NO WEAR!

Needs cleaning (I have 229 and 239 and know my SIGS!) and I bet the pawn shop will go down to $300.

Now how bad is the feeding problems with the P6?

Thanks,

Deaf
 
Post 1989 guns have the new improved ramps for feeding hollow points. It seems to be widely reported that earlier guns are hit or miss for hollow points. I've never tried hollow points in my 1978 as my defense rounds are round nose Corbon PowrBall. There is at least one company that did or does fixes on the ramp that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
 
Check the feedramp against this pic... IIRC All P6s prior to 14th of June 1989 had a feed ramp angle of 52 degrees. After 14th of June 1989 they changed it to 54 degrees to better feed JHPs. This does not mean pistols prior to 1989 will not feed JHP it simply means they were not designed with JHP in mind.

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From what I've googled it won't. It's the angle of the ramp that is the problem.

Some do feed JHPs so I suspect the distance the round has to jump also is part of the problem.

Deaf
 
It varies from gun to gun.
Personally I'd test the gun in question with my prefered load, and if a no go, I'd get some Corbon Powerball and not worry about it.
 
I have an 11/82 and I recently shot some ones reload HP'S. I do not know who reloaded them or what the load was and they fed just fine. At the price you are quoting you won't get hurt even if you have to do a bit of work on it. I love mine and I shoot the tightest groups with it as any other pistol I own including my 229. They also make a good concealed piece.
 
My 9/81 P6 feeds 147gr. Hydra Shocks just fine- but to be on the safe side I keep it loaded with regular old 115gr ball as that is what it was designed for (it is my truck gun). Great gun and you should jump on it for $350...these are going for 450ish on Armslist and will probably keep going up....only problem is magazine availability, forget Promag- try to find factory 225/P6 mags or I think Mec-gar still lists them....
 
VAgunner said:
Check the feedramp against this pic... IIRC All P6s prior to 14th of June 1989 had a feed ramp angle of 52 degrees. After 14th of June 1989 they changed it to 54 degrees to better feed JHPs. This does not mean pistols prior to 1989 will not feed JHP it simply means they were not designed with JHP in mind.

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So the ramp on the left is the early style?

Deaf
 
My 11/97.

Feeds everything, including the floor sweepings from under the reloading bench!

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Don't know anything about the older ones.
But this one is flawless with any ammo I have shot in it so far in several years.

BTW: I got several extra SIG P6 mags back when the getten was good!!

rc
 
As stated hit or miss but I have (2) P6's and both have been great pistols. Both are PW Arms Euro Police Trade-In imports I bought back in 2006ish. I want to say they cost me$329 each.

In my safe is the beater range toy 12/79 P6. It has been 100% with all the hollow point 9mm I own. (9BP, Hydra Shock 124 and 147gr, HST 124gr, Ranger T 127gr).

I keep it loaded with Federal 9BPLE. I have a ton of it, it has a good bullet profile, feeds in the gun and is a proven performer.

The other one which was a little nicer, I installed some SIG Nite Sights from CDNN and gave it to my mom to keep as a house gun when dads away. She keeps regular Federal 9BP in it. It's a 1979 also but I don't remember the month. It has regular Federal 9BP in it because she is recoil sensitive and the extra blast and recoil of the +P+ LE round is a problem.

$350.00 is a great price these days.... I see them sell for about $100 more on the local boards here.

Factory surplus P6 Magazines have become availiable again from Robertsons Trading Post for about $25.00 each, which is pretty reasonable.
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$350 is a deal - as rklessdriver notes, they go for $450+ now. I'd go for it. I have two '79 dates, both work fine with HP, but I go with ball ammo.
 
SigP229R said:
I have an 11/82 and I recently shot some ones reload HP'S. I do not know who reloaded them or what the load was and they fed just fine. At the price you are quoting you won't get hurt even if you have to do a bit of work on it. I love mine and I shoot the tightest groups with it as any other pistol I own including my 229. They also make a good concealed piece.
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I can't read your posts when your font is blue. Just saying.
 
Go for it

Deaf,

I have a SIG P-6 and a civilian P225. They are both great to shoot and the 225 has fed everything including FEDERAL Hydra Shok ammo without problems.

Then there is the P-6. If WILL NOT FEED ANY HOLLOW POINT. I tried FEDERAL and REMINGTON and neither would work 100%. So I eventually went with COR BON Powerball and trusted it enough to give it to my wife as a house gun. A DUTCH cop I met told me that he carried a P-6 and that he was issued the GECO BAT round which is a large hollow point with a plug in it.
This is about the same as the Powerball round which is a large hollow point with a plastic ball inserted in the hollow point.

A friend of mine who also bought a P-6 and went so far as buying a P-225 barrel and fitting it. No dice, the P-6 just will not feed hollow point. Later guns built to the same standard as the P225 (the same gun, just the SIG designation instead of the GERMAN government designation).

I use the P225 as one of my house guns and have found it to be as reliable as my BERETTA 92'S which is saying a lot.

I will try some HORNADY Critical Duty when I get some to see if it feeds, until then, you can count on the COR BON Powerball. The Powerball will also expand very well, but does not penetrate deeply.

Jim
 
Thanks Jim,

Now folks can you imagine the cost of all that hollow point ammo just to find one that even works? That can run into some money.

It's still at the shop so if I do offer $ it will be at a LOW price.

I do have the 229 and 239, both 9mm, but the P6 could be a practice gun, like the one I have for my Glock and j frame.

Deaf
 
Save some money

Deaf,

Start with a 50 round box of REMINGTON jacketed hollow point. These can be quite inexpensive and often cost under $30.00 a box of 50.

If it will not feed the REMINGTON, it will not feed anything else in my experience. The REMINGTON hollow points are usually the best feeders in any caliber, but are not going to give explosive expansion. Still, is almost always works.

If that fails, you can use the COR BON Powerball without fail.

Jim
 
A 1980 P6 will feed Federal 9BPLE JHP rounds just fine, IME.
The 9BPLE has a fairly round nose.
But I don't recommend that round in the as-delivered configuration. Way harsh on the gun with the original springs. Spent cases bounce off the ceiling and I feel the original grips flexing with every shot fired - probably from the underdamped recoil impulse. I'll comment later on how it does with a stiffer recoil spring and that load. Since the P6 was supposed to work with NATO spec rounds (conjecture) with similar pressure as +P+, it might just be that a worn original recoil spring is not up to the task.
Perhaps the 9BP standard pressure round is more suitable.
But the feeding is on point.
 
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