Hodgdon bought IMR
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Wow, my MBA mind is going crazy. What will management do? Keep both lines? Eliminate redundancies? Create more duplex powders?
Don't see how H4895 and IMR 4895 can co-exist under the same management...
Even if they keep both lines intact, combined profits should increase, since you can have one marketing/sales team instead of 2, 1 accounting team, etc.
Does this men Hodgdon is the largest powder mfgr in the world? If only investment bankers were reloaders. The press in the WSJ would be fun to read.
Don't see how H4895 and IMR 4895 can co-exist under the same management...
Even if they keep both lines intact, combined profits should increase, since you can have one marketing/sales team instead of 2, 1 accounting team, etc.
Does this men Hodgdon is the largest powder mfgr in the world? If only investment bankers were reloaders. The press in the WSJ would be fun to read.
Mike Irwin
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My guess is that they're going to slowly phase out the redundancies in the line.
At least I hope that's what they do.
Quite frankly, this is very exciting.
At least I hope that's what they do.
Quite frankly, this is very exciting.
Sven
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Wonder which 4895 would become the new standard if they do phase one out.
HankL
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Sort of a sad thing saying farewell to any provider of reloading components.
I suppose that I always have been a bit eccentric for having two brands of 4831 and 4350 on hand at all times.
RIP IMR
Edited to add: I just went over to Graf & Sons and picked up a small supply of my favorites.
I suppose that I always have been a bit eccentric for having two brands of 4831 and 4350 on hand at all times.
RIP IMR
Edited to add: I just went over to Graf & Sons and picked up a small supply of my favorites.
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caseydog
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While i'm sorry to see the loss from a competetive standpoint , Hodgdon has been agressive , innovative and loyal to it's customers and the shooting sports, while Imr has been sitting on the wonderful but stale DuPont line for the most part. Case
Jim Watson
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That brings up more questions that it answers.
IMR Powder Co., of Plattsburgh NY, is just the US importer. IMR powders have been manufactured in Canada by Produits Chimiques Expro Inc for some time.
So did Hodgdon get the warehouse or the factory? Not completely clear, but it sounds to me like they just got the main US distributorship.
Hodgdon is not a manufacturer; except of Pyrodex and maybe 777. Their extruded and flake smokeless powders are made by ADI in Australia and spherical powders by the St Marks Powder Co plant (was Primex, was Winchester/Olin) in Florida.
I think the powders will remain the same, they will just all come in through Hodgdon. Too good a customer base for them to cut out established products. I hope.
IMR Powder Co., of Plattsburgh NY, is just the US importer. IMR powders have been manufactured in Canada by Produits Chimiques Expro Inc for some time.
So did Hodgdon get the warehouse or the factory? Not completely clear, but it sounds to me like they just got the main US distributorship.
Hodgdon is not a manufacturer; except of Pyrodex and maybe 777. Their extruded and flake smokeless powders are made by ADI in Australia and spherical powders by the St Marks Powder Co plant (was Primex, was Winchester/Olin) in Florida.
I think the powders will remain the same, they will just all come in through Hodgdon. Too good a customer base for them to cut out established products. I hope.
HankL
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Jim, I hope you are right as well. I picked up 32# of my favorite IMR powders a bit ago and advised my BIL to pick up the slack on the Hodgdon powders that we use just in case they change as well.
I know that I'm pissin and moaning here but I have a great deal of data documented with these powders. Yes, new lot number back up and regroup, no problem but this change could be a hurdle.
C.R.Sam
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I musta taken a real long knap.
Thanks for the informative post Jim.
Sam
Thanks for the informative post Jim.
Sam
JackM
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I hope IMR's site got hacked, otherwise the VISA will take a big hit.
Bye
Jack
Bye
Jack
HankL
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Good News. I got this response to an email that I sent to Hodgdon's
This was signed by Phil Hodgdon.
Mike Irwin
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Well, that's good to know, but I really think that Hodgdon is making something of a mistake by not repositioning the lines a bit given the dubious sales strength of some of the IMR powders these days... But, they know the powder business
My gripe with Hogdon has been the lot-to-lot variance that are the result of sourcing the same powder from several vendors. Perhaps the joining of these two companies means Hogdon will maintain the benefits of their marketing and distribution skills and gain IMR's strengths in production.
Poodleshooter
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I just hope that it means that I can get IMR powders cheaper around here. They're usually $3-4 more per pound than Alliant or Hodgdon powders for some reason. It's not as if their demand for say PB or 3031 is sky high,so I've always wondered why there's a price difference.
I hope they keep both lines.
As an aside, I work in the collision repair industry. The current trend with large insurance companies is to buy smaller, but goos, solid companies. They keep them separate but they are all owned by the parent company. If you have the money it's easier to buy your competition (and their customers) rather than just market for the same client base.
As an aside, I work in the collision repair industry. The current trend with large insurance companies is to buy smaller, but goos, solid companies. They keep them separate but they are all owned by the parent company. If you have the money it's easier to buy your competition (and their customers) rather than just market for the same client base.
Very interesting. I also hope Hodgdon keeps most of the IMR line intact. This is my chance to add another can of 4320 to the powder shelf. Then I'll have one from 3 different manufacturers - DuPont, IMR and Hodgdon.
Sven
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Phil Hodgdon confirmed they would keep both lines - that's great news!
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