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Holder: We Want to Explore Gun Tracking Bracelets

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by JRH6856, Apr 7, 2014.

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  1. JRH6856

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    And most likely, not a dollar to be spent on public awareness trying to encourage people to practice safe gun handling/storage
     
  3. MEHavey

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    And as YoungSon notes -- fresh back from another tour in the sandbox:

    "...Which, then you probably could create a jamming system to make the firearm completely inop........."
     
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    GPS trackers worked so well when Holders DOJ gave guns to Mexican drug cartels.
     
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    I think it's written in the New Jersey gun law that as soon as "Smart guns" become practical all handguns in New Jersey sold after that must be smart guns.
     
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    Bexar, I believe you're correct.

    This will certainly be a battleground in the coming future. The one good thing is just about every technology can be broken, hacked, has a weakness, and whatever flaws we find with this technology if/when it becomes even close to viable, will be a major defense point against it. Also pushing cops to have to have them first will hopefully be a good conversation starter. :D
     
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    http://freebeacon.com/issues/holder-we-want-to-explore-gun-tracking-bracelets/

    Now here is a solution for a yet to be incurred problem.......

    Maybe they should use that money to keep violent criminals in jail instead of releasing them early?

    :cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss::banghead::banghead::banghead:
     
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    I don't even know what to say. Stupidity abounds in Washington.
     
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    DOA like most anti gun crap that comes out of Washington.
     
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    A hackable technology that will not do a thing to prevent gun violence.
     
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    Ok, lets look at the reality. An RFID chip in the bracelet will do it. The gun detects a valid encoded ID and unlocks the action to fire.

    Already in use with fob keys for cars. Existing technology. Not so dead in the water in terms of tech, it's already in use.

    What the agenda meisters really want is to turn OFF your gun with a master disconnect signal.

    The unintended consequences are that hackers can mess up anybody's best laid plans, and the system won't work that way. Adding electronic reception of signals to enable or disable a gun is a two edged sword.

    And, unfortunately, we have already seen that some makers will provide firearms to the military and LEO's which will enable them to be free of the restriction. Which will put them in the spotlight even more than now, having full auto M16's easily available for the stealing from their patrol car.

    Imagine a shadowy crowd of non gun users attempting to follow a foot patrol officer thinking there will be no shoot outs in their vicinity, along with gangstas looking to snatch a gun they could use, using a cop's gun they can. They left that stuff out of "Judge Dredd." It would make a great parody. The endless speculation and possibilities are even worse than a TEOTWAWKI thread.

    We won't buy them, and we would disable them. It would make even more gun users criminals without fixing any of the societal problems. Kind of like Connecticut. That worked well, right?
     
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    EH is just another adm. bag man.

    Every time he opens his mouth he hurts the team.

    EH and everything he says is now totally irrelevant.

    He will be lucky to keep his job until the next election.
     
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    How about criminal tracking bracelets?

    Not a chance of him leaving, the media is willfully blind to anything that reflects badly on Obama and his cronies.
     
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    Before this thread gets locked ...............


    Lets change the title of the thread from "Holder: We Want to Explore Gun Tracking Bracelets"

    To

    "Citizens of the U.S. : We want Holder to come clean on 'Fast and Furious'"


    ok....now you may close the thread.........


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    After the FBI, Secret Service, and HS test the system for 5 years it might be sold for civilian use. :)
     
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    Will Holder issue these bracelets to the Mexican drug cartels?
     
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    research opportunity:

    Which of Obama's donors/buddies own the company that's going to get this 2 million dollar grant to "research" these RFID guns?
     
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    I don't think the Peanut gallery has grasped the portent of post #3 above.

    Every civilian-bracelet activated firearm could be selectively jammed at the flip of a switch.
    Who needs confiscation after that? All you have left is an expensive doorstop.




    But after all, it's for your own safety (...and those of "the children"), right?
     
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    I look forward to reading all of the responses to this one...there are so many things wrong with the plan that there is no way I could think of them all on my own.

    In addition to all of the immediate problems with the plan I also had this thought...the same government that can't protect our critical infrastructure from an EMP, wants to push everyone toward guns vulnerable to the same. Then when all the lights go out nobody has a way to protect themselves.
     
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    What about twelve gauge shotguns? All feel good legislation kind of gets thrown out the door when some guy in a gun-free zone Navy Yard in a gun restricted city goes human hunting at will while the local PD tries to find it's backside and get their donuts and coffee to go. I can just see a bunch of duck hunters picking out their Mossy Oak bracelets to go duck hunting with. Not only that but how many lives do they think these bracelets are going to save when guns have saved far more lives by running off or capturing violent felons thousands upon thousands of times every year. I'd like to have every Congressional gun control debate opened with the reading of the U.S. Justice departments findings and the CDC report Clinton in his presidency and then Obama had commissioned at millions of taxpayer dollars but a mighty Oops!!! came out of the Oval office when the findings were presented to Himself by the commission he had us pay for. I'd like to look under that Oval office rug and pull out that report which is probably next to that lump in the carpet where the Benghazi and Fast and Furious investigations have been swept.
     
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    Holder gets the first one issued for the Fast and Furious fiasco.
     
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    I am Not a Database

    So a database of RFID or other gun owner bracelets is not the same thing as a gun registration database?

    No Wait! That IS the same thing!

    A wolf in sheep's clothing is still a wolf and will bite you as soon as it can.
     
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    Okay guys, I don't know where to go or even if this belongs here. Today I was over at Redstate.com, and clicked on the article talking about Holder and his gun bracelet.

    Instead of immediately getting the webpage, I get the following:

    Has anybody seen this? Is it time to dump Mozilla and Firefox? Now, they were probably reacting to redstate.com, but redstate's views and articles on gun ownership are the same as most law abiding gun owners. I am concerned that this is the start of Mozilla censorship.
     
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    I am sure the Feds feel that if they can switch off your car's ignition or your cell phone - why not your gun?
     
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    Does anyone else remember the mandatory 1974 automobile seat belt ignition switch interlocks? Most of the circuits were probably disabled before most of the cars so equipped were even delivered to customers. IIRC, this lasted a few months before congress did away with the requirement.

    I can't imagine how this idea can possibly work with a simple machine based on centuries-old technology that's designed to be completely disassembled for cleaning.

    Does Holder even understand how a gun works?
     

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