romma
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All I can say is that is one stealthy creature...
Home invasion carried out by mountain lion...
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TallPine
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Our dog barks boldy at the deer and turkeys, but sometimes he just growls or whines very softly and scratches the door to get in. That's when we know there is something big and dangerous out there
if you can hit it, a 9mm should be more than enough to kill a 140lb mountain lion. Basically any defensive caliber handgun or rifle will work, I'd think, according to the stories and info I have read of similar encounters. The trick is that they are real fast and not standing upright with a big wide chest to aim at.
Not according the NC wildlife officials. State Game Warden still denies the existence of mountain lions in NC, even with photographic evidence.
Of course there was a recent large cat sighting in the MD suburbs of Washington D.C. and MD denies the existence of mountain lions in MD.
jakemccoy
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lysander said:
Some dogs will cower away if they know they're faced with a threat that's insurmountable. Labradors are highly intelligent. In this case, the dogs were too intelligent for their own good. These poor folks found out the hard way. While larger dogs make better guard dogs, smaller dogs generally make better watch dogs. Most small dogs (less than 10 pounds) will bark at anything unusual, including a rottweiler intent on tearing it to shreds. I tell my girlfriends that my little poodle is the watch dog and that I'm the guard dog. Generally though, dogs rule.
bleachcola
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This is why I own Argentine Dogos. They can take a mountain lion for breakfast. I like to think so at least.
romma
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Of course! "Nothing to see here folks, keep moving"...
Especially those two places. Someone might want to carry in those places for protection.
Cyclimus
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And none in Ohio according to the Akron Beacon Journal today either... yep... 75 lbs cat with large paw prints is not a mountain lion. Thanks OHDNR!
Halo
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It's a puzzling position for sure. Bureaucratic arrogance perhaps? "We haven't declared it, so it can't be".
My parents live in the NC mountains and there have been numerous credible sightings up there. Two winters ago I even saw large feline paw prints in the snow right outside their house. When I'm up there I don't go in the woods or walk the dog without carrying.
Pity for the poor dog. That's why shepherd dogs used to wear spiked collars, kept wolves and other predators from clamping down on their necks.
Mine's a strange one. She'll run and hide when the crop dusters are hitting the fields that adjoin my house, but she's gone and put herself between me and an angry bull. I like to think she'd be courageous when it mattered.
Courageous...and hopefully wary enough to wake me up growling and barking. Good thing I don't live in lion country.
Preach it Brother!!
FieroCDSP
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Caught, nuttin. Something comes in silently, swipes a medium dog, and slinks away into the night, I'm packin up the mosin and a pair of forties, and a goin huntin. No way I'd let that thing live long enough to think my home's a buffet and to come for seconds.
What I know about mtn lions:
Old school thought is 22 mag or larger to kill them.
I would prefer 12 ga myself.
I have only seen one in the wild, was javalina hunting in Az
and saw one follow a deer down the side of a hill.
They are out there, this pic was in local paper earlier this year
about 8 miles from here.
Old school thought is 22 mag or larger to kill them.
I would prefer 12 ga myself.
I have only seen one in the wild, was javalina hunting in Az
and saw one follow a deer down the side of a hill.
They are out there, this pic was in local paper earlier this year
about 8 miles from here.
Treo
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Update From Krdo News
According to KRDO news the Home owners are saying that the lion & the dog fighting is what woke them up. They also said the dog was 12 years old. So (not that the dog ever really had a chance) you've got an old dog that really wasn't going to put up much fight.
Also DOW is claiming they "euthanized" the cat ,as opposed to just saying they shot it.
According to KRDO news the Home owners are saying that the lion & the dog fighting is what woke them up. They also said the dog was 12 years old. So (not that the dog ever really had a chance) you've got an old dog that really wasn't going to put up much fight.
Also DOW is claiming they "euthanized" the cat ,as opposed to just saying they shot it.
I think you are neglecting one [SIZE=-2]tiny[/SIZE] little detail.
While the kitty can easily be killed with the 9mm, it may take more than one or two minutes for it to die. TRUST ME it is NOT going to just sit there and wait to die. It will claw, bite, shred and do EVERYTHING it can to harm anything near it, during those one or two minutes. In the original situation, had the home owner shot it, most likely both dogs and BOTH people would have also died, from actions taken - after - the kitty was shot.. (exception would be a direct to the brain or spine, shot [not likely]).
This was from the Chicago Burbs near me this spring:
Late Monday afternoon, April 14, city police in Roscoe Village (a north side Chicago suburb) were tasked with an unusual duty -- killing a 150 pound cougar. The big cat was sited earlier in nearby Wilmette (about 14 miles to the North.) According to the Chicago Tribune, he probably travelled via the area's train tracks, ending up deep inside a heavily populated area. Be sure to check out my links to this article, which documents the confrontation superbly.
Ben and Kate Greene reported their shock at hearing gunfire while Ben was bathing their 10-month-old son. Not surprisingly, Kate gathered up their 3-year-old, and came flying into the bathroom, screaming her head off! The 5-foot-long tan cougar ended up dying in the alley adjacent to the Greene's garage. Besides taking out the big cat, the police shot their air-conditioning unit full of holes as well; however, the Greene parents were simply glad their two young sons weren't hurt! Ben was quoted by the Chicago Tribune stating, "As far as I witnessed, they did a pretty good job. Hypothetically, if there were kids in the yard and the cougar jumps in, what would the cougar have done?"
My husband Warren lived in Chicago for many years after finishing up his studies at the Art Institute in Chicago. Even though we're Michigan residents, born and bred, Warren, our son Vincent, and I all root for the Chicago Cubs and Chicago Bears. We've watched many games at Wrigley Field and spent many happy hours in the big "Windy City" of Chicago. It's just hard to imagine a cougar prowling along the streets there! In contrast, we routinely share our neighborhood space up North near the Canadian border with bears, cougars, bobcats and wolves. Just this past fall, a large bobcat was reported in the nearby Gogamain Swamp, after being misidentified as a cougar. He's freely roaming there today, after wildlife experts properly identified him from paw prints and spoor. Cougar tracks and spoor are common in the western section of Mackinac County.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/715801/cougar_killed_in_the_north_side_chicago.html
Late Monday afternoon, April 14, city police in Roscoe Village (a north side Chicago suburb) were tasked with an unusual duty -- killing a 150 pound cougar. The big cat was sited earlier in nearby Wilmette (about 14 miles to the North.) According to the Chicago Tribune, he probably travelled via the area's train tracks, ending up deep inside a heavily populated area. Be sure to check out my links to this article, which documents the confrontation superbly.
Ben and Kate Greene reported their shock at hearing gunfire while Ben was bathing their 10-month-old son. Not surprisingly, Kate gathered up their 3-year-old, and came flying into the bathroom, screaming her head off! The 5-foot-long tan cougar ended up dying in the alley adjacent to the Greene's garage. Besides taking out the big cat, the police shot their air-conditioning unit full of holes as well; however, the Greene parents were simply glad their two young sons weren't hurt! Ben was quoted by the Chicago Tribune stating, "As far as I witnessed, they did a pretty good job. Hypothetically, if there were kids in the yard and the cougar jumps in, what would the cougar have done?"
My husband Warren lived in Chicago for many years after finishing up his studies at the Art Institute in Chicago. Even though we're Michigan residents, born and bred, Warren, our son Vincent, and I all root for the Chicago Cubs and Chicago Bears. We've watched many games at Wrigley Field and spent many happy hours in the big "Windy City" of Chicago. It's just hard to imagine a cougar prowling along the streets there! In contrast, we routinely share our neighborhood space up North near the Canadian border with bears, cougars, bobcats and wolves. Just this past fall, a large bobcat was reported in the nearby Gogamain Swamp, after being misidentified as a cougar. He's freely roaming there today, after wildlife experts properly identified him from paw prints and spoor. Cougar tracks and spoor are common in the western section of Mackinac County.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/715801/cougar_killed_in_the_north_side_chicago.html
BruceRDucer
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I've been through that town many times on my way to and fro.
Colorado is also a state where there are occasional instances of Mountain Lions going for Joggers.
Just remember. Don't hurt the Mountain Lions. They only want to eat you.
Colorado is also a state where there are occasional instances of Mountain Lions going for Joggers.
Just remember. Don't hurt the Mountain Lions. They only want to eat you.
Look...I am probably a touch more environmentally and ecologically conscious than most...but a predator is a predator is a predator.
Be they four legged, two legged or otherwise.
I am all for harmony with nature, wise use, conservation and protecting wild habitat. But that harmony ends the minute some critter tries to eat me. I expect the various livestock animals in our modern world feel the same way, they just don't have guns.
.....yet.
Drgong
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I DO know that there is at least one mountian cat that lives in Mt. Jefferson State Park. I have seen the tracks myself. There is no reported attacks as we are overrun with deer, most since many landowners moving in post it no hunting and don't hunt it themselves.
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LaEscopeta
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About mountain lion tracks found in places where they were eradicated years ago. Remember tracks can grow bigger in melting snow and drying mud. And this frequently erases the claw marks on large dog foot prints.
I didn’t see any of the tracks you all saw of course…
I didn’t see any of the tracks you all saw of course…
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