Home Invasions - string ended?

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Froggy

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On 2 January, an armed citizen brought an end to a home invasion and may have ended a string of them.

At about 10:45pm on 27 December, armed men broke into a home (via a rear entrance) and robbed the residents before fleeing. No shots fired; no one injured.

At about 8:00am on 2 January, three armed men broke into a home two doors down from the home robbed on 27 December. Again, they came in via a rear entrance and had descriptions matching those involved in the 27 December incident. This time shots were fired before the armed men fled in a vehicle that had been reported stolen on 1 January. In addition to the three invaders, there were one or more persons waiting in the vehicle parked on the street outside the house. No injuries reported.

At about 10:40pm on 2 January, 6 men (at least some of them armed) broke into a home via the rear entrance and put three residents on the floor (a 9 year old boy and two adults). The 23-year old son of the adults had just gone to bed but was awakened by the shouting in the other room. He locked the door to his bedroom then grabbed and loaded a shotgun. He saw the door knob turn as someone attempted to enter the room. When the locked door was kicked in, he fired a round of "buckshot" (not further described) wounding the man who then retreated. When a second man appeared in the doorway, the 23-year old son fired again, killing the invader with a shot to the chest. The young man does not remember being shot at during the encounter, but says he later found bullet holes in the walls inside his room.

The remaining four invaders grabbed their wounded comrade and fled the scene. They stopped at a house about a mile away and called 911 for medical assistance. When police arrived, they arrested two of the four uninjured men found at the residence. Investigators are looking into the possibility the three home invasions are connected.

- Quick thinking and decisive action on the part of the 23-year old made the difference. Having the shotgun in his room, away from the unfolding events in the main room of the house, was also a factor.

- a sidearm on the adults in the main room may or may not have been useful. With 6 armed men confronting you, your wife, and a 9-year old nephew would you start a fire fight?

- in all three instances, the invaders made their way in via a rear entrance. Only one account says they forced their way in. The info may be omitted from the other accounts, or it could be the rear doors were not secured.

- the last event was in a mobilehome with no fence dividing front yard from rear yard (there was a waist high chain link fence all the way around the property). The other two events took place in typical, closely spaced homes in a residental neighborhood with typical unfenced front yards and high fenced back yards. No description of locked or unlocked gates included in the accounts.

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/local/37439.php

http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=5888378&nav=HMO6HMaW

http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=5889342
 
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This is the exact reason that I have some form of defense tool, be it a firearm or other in every room of the house, and most always on my person while in my home. These home invasions aren't really that common, but I don't want to be the one person in the statistic. Also, Nikita (my german shephard) will definately slow them down a bit and allow me to react. :D
 
Home Invasions - string ended?

We can certainly hope so.....

From what I have seen over the last 20+ years, the mindset of said miscreants has shifted from "Take the money/easy stuff and run" to "Leave NO breathing witnesses behind."
 
Home invasions seem to be the "crime of the 21st century" and we should all be prepared for such an occurance. While I depend on my dogs to wake me, they are kenneled at night, and tus can't take on a BG. BUT, I'm never more than 30 ft. from a gun, so they act quite well as an "early warning system". If I don't have a chance to release the dogs (and the BGs REALLY don't wanna mess with these dogs), I can be quite prepared to deal with them on a few secinds notice.

P.S. Not that almost every house (semi-rural area) has been burglazied in the past few years(but no home invasions) except mine. Suspect local youths, who know that, in addition to the dogs, I'm well armed, and have NO problem using them for self defence. Fortunately the "bad actor" suspectd in most of these burglaries is now behind bars, where he belongs.
 
- Quick thinking and decisive action on the part of the 23-year old made the difference. Having the loaded shotgun in his room, away from the unfolding events in the main room of the house, was also a factor.

There, I fixed it for you. :)
 
BLAM!

Damn! He's still wigglin'!

BLAM!

glocktoberfest, that's a good way to turn a justified shooting into a felony charge of murder, manslaughter, or attempted murder.

You need to study the applicable laws of your state. State laws vary but I am aware of none where your 'advice' would not constitute a felony. You also need to read the various THR forum policies and the policies of Strategies and Tactics. You've made a clean sweep as that's in violation of ALL of them.



BUT, I'm never more than 30 ft. from a gun,

I know dead people who were 20 feet away from a gun when they needed a gun. From the reconstruction of the event, they had several seconds warning of impending danger. It was not sufficient. If your weapons are further away than the length of your arm, they might be too far. Holsters and handguns were developed for reasons. As Clint Smith has said,"The purpose of the handgun is to fight your way to the rifle you so foolishly laid aside."
 
When the locked door was kicked in, he fired a round of "buckshot" (not further described) wounding the man who then retreated. When a second man appeared in the doorway, the 23-year old son fired again, killing the invader with a shot to the chest
Funny just how stupid some thugs can be.

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I know dead people who were 20 feet away from a gun when they needed a gun. From the reconstruction of the event, they had several seconds warning of impending danger. It was not sufficient
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I hear what you're saying....but the statement is a little contradictory. If they had "several seconds" they should be more than able to reach the gun. I know that I can get to the gun, load a magazine and chamber a round in about 5 seconds, if necessary. Unless the BGs come DIRECTLY to me after breaching the door (near impossible in a 2600 sq. ft. house, especially if they don't know EXACTLY where to go), I wouldn't even have to hurry. AND, the dogs will give me several seconds warning of anyone that even APPROACHES the house....long before they try to breach the (steel) entry doors. May not work this way for every one (and I never said it did), but I have no fears when it comes to a home invasion scenario.
 
Well, they had several seconds to get to a gun and the opponent had several second to intercept them being already armed...and succeeded in doing so.

In one instance, the man was probably within a half second or so of obtaining his handgun but the machete splitting his skull made the point moot. Man died right at his weapon. He covered the distance almost in time but his opponent-an eighteen year old-was faster and covered a greater distance faster with weapon in hand.

There are people who are much faster than I. If I keep my weapon at hand, that is one more factor that can't screw up. I like to avoid Murphy when at all possible.
 
The time issue here has nothing to do with actual speed of getting to a firearm.
The real issue is how long it takes to decide what is happening, and act on the info.
 
Isn't that the truth. You hear a crash, and first thing your brain processes is "what was THAT?" instead of "get your gun".

I carry around the house. Uncomfortable as :cuss: but it's there if I need it...just like a Leatherman or my keys.

We had two armed HI's within 4 miles of my house. First one was the classic "my car broke down" and 3 armed guys rushed in. Second was waiting in the bushes, held at knifepoint.

They say the incidents aren't by the same thugs but I think they're related. Neither have been caught yet.
 
I carry around the house. Uncomfortable as but it's there if I need it...just like a Leatherman or my keys.
That's what my Keltec P3AT is for.
 
I find myself

carrying around the house as well mostly because I come home wearing it and just forget to take it off. I am trying to get into the habit of at least putting it in the same place all the time so I will at least know where to go should I need it. We had a home invasion in the neighborhood about a year ago. The old man and woman in their 70s climbed out their second story window only after the old guy grabbed his gun. Police caught the suspect. Ahhhh, I love happy endings.:D
 
We had two armed HI's within 4 miles of my house. First one was the classic "my car broke down" and 3 armed guys rushed in.

"Not to worry, I called the police 5 minute ago. Talk to them about it. Hell no I ain't ain't unlocking this steel door! Shut up mutts, I am talking to the man! Martha, be careful where you point that thing!"

It is called situational awareness. And not relying on flimsy construction.

Jerry
 
My rule is to never be more than arm's reach of a loaded firearm. Ten or twenty feet, esp. if the firearm is unloaded and stowed away, is way too far.
 
Loaded Shotgun?

Ryder said:
Having the loaded shotgun in his room
Well, not really . . .
He locked the door to his bedroom then grabbed and loaded a shotgun.

Lost some valuable time there, although, with an 8-year-old in the house, perhaps one can understand keeping it unloaded.

In his shoes, I would now find a way to make sure the darn thing was always loaded and available.
 
About two years ago there were four home invasions in my area.My sons homes are not far form mine, so we were all noticing everything as it happened in our neighborhoods. I'm sure my neighbors thought I was the classic nosey neighbor...too bad.

Things have "cooled off" for a year...so maybe its time to reve up our vigilence. Bad stuff could start any day.

I have for many years carried while I'm up...and it has a place to sit while I'm in bed. I don't want to look for my gun if I wake up to a "bump in the night".

Mark.
 
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