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I am writing a research paper(7-10)pages on the role of snipers in combat. I need to provide two visual arguments for the paper. I need one to be a graph or statistic of somesort. Does anyone have any ideas on what kind of statistic I could use? Pretty much anything about snipers, I Just do not know what to look for really. The other image is just going to be a picture, and have been thinking about doing the picture of the suicide bomber shot in the head by a .50 cal, it is really graphic though, but could support my argument in a way.

Does anyone know any good sources or can offer any help? Thanks
 
Statistic...if you can find it.

Compare the number of rounds the average infantry soldier fires to kill 1 bad guy.

I have read that in Vietnam....infantry averaged 50,000 rounds for 1 kill.

And yes.... I know the tactics of the infantry are VERY different (cover fire and all that), but it would be a number he may be able to use.

Just a thought...
 
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Another more exciting aspect of Snipers as a life savior is that of a designated marksman. Something a bit new to my thinking in a squad, fireteam or platoon.

The one DM will be sniping important enemy targets. I read a story over on Military dot com where one DM was able to take 20 enemy lives and silence a machinegun nest or two and save a number of his fellow Marines. Ranges were at 200 yards or so.

Or you can reach back to world war one where the old German Kaiser Helmets used to lose thier "Spikes" at certain ranges. And a place in France where Marines sharp shot Germans at many hundreds of yards.

For the very best in Sniping, you might want to look over the SAS in the UK. Those folks.... whew. You can rent the Movie Enemy at the Gates I think is of the Russian Soldier at Stalingrad who became a sniper out of necessity.

Saving Pvt Ryan had a pretty accurate sniping bit I think in the world war two era in that movie.

Both Union and Confederate forces had sniper weapons that were defined by extremely long tubes to sight through and worked alone targeting important people.

In the Revolutionary times Sailing ships had Marine sharpshooters in the fighting tops (Half way up the masts and sails on platforms) aiming to take out the enemy officers on the opposite ship's quarter deck. But on land, sniping was considered somewhat dirty and dishonrable because of a different way of life in those days.

Or keep it simple and use your nearest local Urban Law Enforcement agency large enough to have a Swat team with snipers.

The important part of this is to gain a desire to learn/want to immerse into sniping and then produce a work easily understood by others. I think the Class really does not want to sit for days to see a shot made.

If you are really getting into it, you may learn of how our enemies after 9-11 would capture Marine Sniper weapons and used them against American Forces and how they would shoot.

There are a number of videos on the internet that will show actual sniper shoots, good, bad and the ugly against enemy forces, american forces and against suspects here at home who have thier handguns shot out of hand or something.

Video games dont have a very good ... sniping situation. Usually the view distance in the games are limited to way less than the ranges a good shoot are typically shot at and the games dont replicate wind and other effects on the bullet.

And finally, dont forget about the SNiper's Spotter. This is a most important part of the team that makes it all work. While the sniper on the Barret is eating the muzzle blast and dust kicked up by the gun, the Spotter can tell instantly what the results were.

Or you can simply review the Maresk Captian Rescue using the recent SEAL sniping of the three bad guys in the lifeboat situation. That particular shoot will probably become a part of our history in a good way, with that story being told and retold long after we all here are dead and gone.

Im happy shooting a dinner plate sized target at 20 yards center mass with a one ounce slug and pleased. These people who qualify, train and go out and do this stuff has to hit with much different ranges and sometimes through glass or other objects to make the shoot work. I can never ever be a sniper. But I have always thought that they have saved many lives over the years.

They are also good for information. If they see... a group of something important, it will not be hard for them to communicate that actionable intel up to thier commander who will then transmit to the appropriate asset under his command or kick it higher for them to handle.

Finally, I have heard or read stories of a naval weapon that is kept aboard a warship and is fired from a cannon of some size. This particular.. munition could have possibly been used to kill a specific bad guy inside his apartment (Through the window) from a hundred or more miles away from the sea.

Myth? Real Story? Wild Imagination?

Who knows? I sure dont.
 
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If it's just got to be some random graph I'd have thought one pertaining to bullet drop over distance would be more than appropriate. Or height of [a] distant object relative to distance regarding mil-dot sights.
 
The graph or statistic has to be relevant to the role of a sniper. ie. 200 insurgents were killed since January by USMC snipers..


Something like that, where it shows that snipers are crucial to war

Thanks!
 
Yeah like said above, average in vietnam was 52,000 rounds per one kill for infantry vs 1.3 rounds per kill for snipers. This shows the superiority a snipers gives, especially embeded with infantry.
 
Read Shooter and Marine Sniper you should get some ideas plus they are really good books.
 
I don't know what school you go to but I'd be willing to bet that if you put that picture of an inside-out head in your report you are going to meet the "authorities" or "someone who can help" real quick! You might be better of using one with a bad guy in the scope but not dead yet. There is that one with the guy facing the other way holding an RPG that is pretty explanitory.
 
For statistics, you may just look for some estimates of the increased battlefield effectiness of squads that have a sniper. It's no coincidence that every organized army in the world has some kind of designated marksman on the field. For pics, one of the most impressive to me is the one of the VC sitting out in a field with the crosshairs dead center on his chest. I think it was Carlos Hathcock that took it.
An interesting angle for your paper would be to show the changing role of snipers in combat. They started as hunters to go in and make hits on high value personnel. Later their primary value was to slow down a platoon's movement and act as a demoralizer. Today, snipers do alot more scouting than actual shooting, serving as the commanding officer's eyes on the battlefield.
 
Jduvall89.

Bullet performance versus wind, gravity and spin plus temperature changing situations between the shooter and his target has every revelance.

Every revelant. So revelant that as I understand it once a weapon is issued to the sniper having been zero'ed for that specific sniper, no one else gets to touch it except the spotter or another trained and qualified sniper.

If your teacher thinks otherwise then Im sorry to say you have a Imbecile for a teacher.

When I fire my slugs at the range, the chart on the ammuntion box says that I can expect the bullet to stop rising about 2 inches above aimpoint at 50 yards and drop to about 9 inches below aimpoint at 100 with decreasing energy and velocity.

Hell, half the time the slugs come skipping back half way to me across the range floor after hitting that backstop.

I dont have any charts or pretty power points to cough up. That is something you will have to determine while building your own presentation.
 
The other image is just going to be a picture, and have been thinking about doing the picture of the suicide bomber shot in the head by a .50 cal, it is really graphic though, but could support my argument in a way.

Make sure you have a good source. If it's the one I'm thinking of, it flew around the web in email forwards a couple years back, but the photog, location, story, and cause of death were unattributed.
 
You can rent the Movie Enemy at the Gates I think is of the Russian Soldier at Stalingrad who became a sniper out of necessity.

Too bad this all seems to have been pure fiction...

J
 
Some more movies involving sniping:

The Sniper (1952)

The Ravine (1970) [originally released as La Cattura (1969)]

Dirty Harry (1971)

I don't know what school you go to but I'd be willing to bet that if you put that picture of an inside-out head in your report you are going to meet the "authorities" or "someone who can help" real quick!
Yes, I agree.

These books would be a helpful source for your paper: Martin Pelger, Out of Nowhere: A History of the Military Sniper (2006); Andy Dougan, Through the Crosshairs: A History of Snipers (2005).

If your teacher thinks otherwise then Im sorry to say you have a Imbecile for a teacher.
Perhaps so. But when writing a paper for credit, the wise student will target his or her audience's prejudices.
 
College or grade-school? I am going to assume that you are a recent grad (born in '89?) and are in college, you should be fine with th topic, but leave out the "inside-out head shot". As mentioned above...a good statistic would be the no. killed by infantry vs. by sniper fire (in Vietnam or elsewhere). Don't forget to site your sources (where you find the stats - this is not one of them), and good luck; Mav.

P.S.: if you would like (and have time to do so) I will read, check, and critique your paper; I did quite well in writing in college. PM me if you would like and I will give you my e-mail address.
 
I decided to to make a quantitative bar graph using the confirmed sniper kills off of Snipercentral.com..

Any pictures that I can use for a visual argument leading to snipers irreplaceable role in combat?

I might use that picture of the sniper off the fantail of the ship.

I could not find that VC crosshair picture.

Yes I am a college student, born in 89..

I won't be using that picture I mentioned before.

Hinton03 what was that link you posted? It is denied when I try to get to it

I could not find any numbers for infantry kills.

I never said that bullet performance was not relevant. I said I needed a graph or statistic relevant to the ROLE of a sniper, not gear. Thanks

Thanks for everyones tips..
 
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Every revelant. So revelant that as I understand it once a weapon is issued to the sniper having been zero'ed for that specific sniper, no one else gets to touch it except the spotter or another trained and qualified sniper.
One of the key points about writing a research paper is to keep your audience (i.e., the prof) interested. Talking about the dry statistics of environmental affects on bullet trajectory, while very relevant, is B-O-R-I-N-G.
I think that the earlier suggestion showing how many rounds it took to cause one confirmed enemy casualty in Vietnam vs. how many rounds expended by snipers per enemy kill would be about the greatest graph to prove their effectiveness.
Dave Grossman's book On Killing should have the statistics, which you can easily plug into Excel to make a graph.
 
Well, that is why I dont try to HELP much on the young folks these days. In my day dry, boring and reams backed by tomes to fall asleep on and not a computer in sight anywhere was my stock in trade during make learn something.

Kinda hard to compress something down to a typical 6 minute attentions span between commericals these days.

Graphs and pictures can be built, generated and made.

Try Star Office Dot ORG for your free software to assist you in your work. Beats paying microshaft for thier office packages.

+1 on the link to the Marine who has demonstrated real life experiences in the USMC. Study him and alot will come to you.

There are many things that are bought and paid for up to and full value of someone's LIFE to gain some of these things that are useful to the next generation of warriors we need to train so that they will at least have a gleam of a idea of how to start things off when it's thier time to fight.

SOmeone here can provide you with a picture or graph but you still will have to build something around it and dont forget to provide the credit to the source of this imagery either from your own creation or someone else's work.

Good luck!
 
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