I used to use the MEC 600 jr. many years ago. For the last 30, I've been using a MEC Grabber 76. If I were to upgrade tomorrow, it would be the MEC 9000- whether I got a deal on it or not. The truth is, that's probably not gonna happen. I shoot nothing but sporting clays, and when you can get imported shotgun ammo for $33/flat (250), and shot going for $25 a bag, I just can't reload that cheap. Even if someone were giving me free AA hulls, I probably still wouldn't.