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We do discuss crossbows here, but you should keep in mind that not everyone, or anyone, is going to know that a particular make/model designation tells folks what you're referring to.
I think that is what I use, but if it is the non self cocking ergo plastic stock plain prod (not a compound) it is a REAL man's weapon.! Only if you are in telephone book tearing level can you cock the thing with your chest and takes a power lifter woman to stirrup cock it. They really are a "tactical " cross bow as they hold a 3-4" 25 yard group for me with a cheap red dot/laser sight on it. I don't know what a "Vision" is tho... mines old and green glass filled Zytel, very sturdy.
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