nalioth
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This thread is needless drama.
Houston Prepares for a Genuine SHTF Situation
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Fast Frank
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To those of us that were here for Carla, and all the storms that came after, this thread might seem a little dramatic.
To the Houstonians that might have recently transplanted here and have the Katrina news coverage fresh in their minds, there's probably a pretty strong urge to do something.
As a salty old veteran of several hurricanes, I'm not worried. The Woodlands is about 80 miles inland, and my house is about 100 feet above sea level. We'll be OK in a cat1.
I'm debating about going in to work tomorrow, but not because I'm so worried about the storm. It's more like taking advantage of a surprise three day weekend just because I can. (I work Tues. thru Sat.)
If this storm somehow takes the electricity out for more than a few hours, then looters might become an issue.
In response to that, I did give the 11-87P a cursory cleaning and inspection yesterday. It was ready to go before I touched it, but it's all spanky clean and smelling of fresh gun oil now. How could that be a bad thing?
The bad neighborhoods in Houston will go crazy LONG before anybody drives all the way up here to try and loot us.
So, I'll just use this "Extra Drama" thread as an excuse to spread a little calm, and point out to the hurricane newbies that this will make a fine trainer hurricane. After this one, they will be ready to take on the real deal.
To the Houstonians that might have recently transplanted here and have the Katrina news coverage fresh in their minds, there's probably a pretty strong urge to do something.
As a salty old veteran of several hurricanes, I'm not worried. The Woodlands is about 80 miles inland, and my house is about 100 feet above sea level. We'll be OK in a cat1.
I'm debating about going in to work tomorrow, but not because I'm so worried about the storm. It's more like taking advantage of a surprise three day weekend just because I can. (I work Tues. thru Sat.)
If this storm somehow takes the electricity out for more than a few hours, then looters might become an issue.
In response to that, I did give the 11-87P a cursory cleaning and inspection yesterday. It was ready to go before I touched it, but it's all spanky clean and smelling of fresh gun oil now. How could that be a bad thing?
The bad neighborhoods in Houston will go crazy LONG before anybody drives all the way up here to try and loot us.
So, I'll just use this "Extra Drama" thread as an excuse to spread a little calm, and point out to the hurricane newbies that this will make a fine trainer hurricane. After this one, they will be ready to take on the real deal.
PaulBk
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Dramatic
I was a Houston resident (downtown) when Alicia hit in '83 and I can attest that both the event and the aftermath WERE pretty dramatic.
Get prepared. Stay safe.
-Paul
I was a Houston resident (downtown) when Alicia hit in '83 and I can attest that both the event and the aftermath WERE pretty dramatic.
Get prepared. Stay safe.
-Paul
brighamr
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what octane are you buying?
Those gas prices look awesome. I just filled up my f150 for $4.39/g
As for the "drama"... better to spend 10 hours getting overprepared, than to realize in 10 seconds your not prepared. The storm may not even hit, but I'd stock a little extra gas/food just in case!
Those gas prices look awesome. I just filled up my f150 for $4.39/g
As for the "drama"... better to spend 10 hours getting overprepared, than to realize in 10 seconds your not prepared. The storm may not even hit, but I'd stock a little extra gas/food just in case!
wally
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About two minutes ago ~1:20CDT Monday Aug 4th, the weather channel tropical update forecast TS Edurado making landfall near the TX-LA border. This is the area where the enormously larger Wilma came ashore, so if this happens, probably won't get the much needed rain. Although tomorrow's forecast is for 90% rain up to 1".
You have to watch these things as they can strengthen quickly and change course abruptly despite what the computer models might predict. Twelve hours from landfall the forecasts are generally pretty good, but then its too late if you live on the coast where its going to hit.
We had a few looter wannabes, inspired by the TV news from Katrina, prior to Rita, HPD took them all straight to jail. Other than a beer truck that had its cargo carried off by people in small boats while TV crews filmed, I've never heard of looting or bad behavior after either Hurricane Alica or TS Allison. Mostly just stories of people helping people.
TS Allison kind of set the borders of who should stay and who should evacuate Houston in a major storm. If you were dry during Allison, stay, if your area flooded, leave!
On the coast there are A, B & C evacuation zones, those in the A zones should be making plans to leave just in case.
Filled up on my way back from the range, $3.59/gal credit card price.
--wally.
You have to watch these things as they can strengthen quickly and change course abruptly despite what the computer models might predict. Twelve hours from landfall the forecasts are generally pretty good, but then its too late if you live on the coast where its going to hit.
We had a few looter wannabes, inspired by the TV news from Katrina, prior to Rita, HPD took them all straight to jail. Other than a beer truck that had its cargo carried off by people in small boats while TV crews filmed, I've never heard of looting or bad behavior after either Hurricane Alica or TS Allison. Mostly just stories of people helping people.
TS Allison kind of set the borders of who should stay and who should evacuate Houston in a major storm. If you were dry during Allison, stay, if your area flooded, leave!
On the coast there are A, B & C evacuation zones, those in the A zones should be making plans to leave just in case.
Filled up on my way back from the range, $3.59/gal credit card price.
--wally.
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guntotinguy
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To all the THR friends over there...keep you heads down...be safe!
UKarmourer
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Stay safe guys, tend not to have to worry about these too much here in Germany!
nalioth
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Your picture is several hours old at the time you posted it.mbt2001 said:
wally
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MBT, yours is the 10AM CDT track. Mine was the 1PM CDT forecast, seems to be turning more northerly.
I'm not saying to ignore it, but sure is no reason to worry yet unless you are on the coast or where TS Allison flooded.
We need the rain, thats for sure. I've been through all of them since '73. The news media over reacts for ratings, it bordered on inciting panic for Rita.
If I get sent home form work or told not to come it tomorrow, I'll start boarding up, but then I'm outside the 500 year flood plain. If you are on the water, I'd keep the weather radio on 24/7 right now.
--wally.
I'm not saying to ignore it, but sure is no reason to worry yet unless you are on the coast or where TS Allison flooded.
We need the rain, thats for sure. I've been through all of them since '73. The news media over reacts for ratings, it bordered on inciting panic for Rita.
If I get sent home form work or told not to come it tomorrow, I'll start boarding up, but then I'm outside the 500 year flood plain. If you are on the water, I'd keep the weather radio on 24/7 right now.
--wally.
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arthurcw
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The only thing I'm worried about is the power going out. Some folks just like to have too much fun when they know alarms may not be working.
Doubt it will be down long enough to make people too antsy. But if it is, we Pre-Reconquista Houstonians in the Glorious Sanctuary City on the dirty waters of the Gulf of Mudsico will give you our data to add to the "Pistol, Rifle, Or Shotgun or HD?" threads.
Doubt it will be down long enough to make people too antsy. But if it is, we Pre-Reconquista Houstonians in the Glorious Sanctuary City on the dirty waters of the Gulf of Mudsico will give you our data to add to the "Pistol, Rifle, Or Shotgun or HD?" threads.
doc540
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Yep, all of us living on the eastern side of its projected path just need to buy beer and have a hurricane party according to all you armchair quarterbacks, right?
I guess all the infirm and elderly who just didn't save enough money to take care of themselves are just shltoutta luck if they loose power for a week.
This was Houston after a tropical storm, not even a hurricane.
I guess all the infirm and elderly who just didn't save enough money to take care of themselves are just shltoutta luck if they loose power for a week.
This was Houston after a tropical storm, not even a hurricane.
TehK1w1
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*sigh* yes, there is some drama going on, but to a certain extent that's forgivable. There are a lot of people filling up cars and buying water, but no real traffic problems just yet. There are a lot of people getting stuff to use in case of a couple days without power. I'm not too worried about it-my family is pretty well prepared, and we didn't flood during Allison(we were surrounded on 3 sides though) I did fill up all the gas cans though-$3.65/gal
Anyone who laughs off Tropical Storms has not seen pictures of Houston after Allison came through.
(EDIT: Doc540 beat me to it)
Here's a link for the curious
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_Storm_Allison
Anyone who laughs off Tropical Storms has not seen pictures of Houston after Allison came through.
(EDIT: Doc540 beat me to it)
Here's a link for the curious
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropical_Storm_Allison
nalioth
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You guys are forgetting that Allison didn't 'come through'. She came and stayed a good while . . . .
arthurcw
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Remember that Allison was a very special case. She actually swung back on us and stalled. She took out places above the 500 yr mark.
Yes a TS can be really wet, but it doesn't seem like this one has the chops nor are the atmospheric conditions there for a stall.
But a few days worth of fuel, food, and clothes are not a bad idea.
Yes a TS can be really wet, but it doesn't seem like this one has the chops nor are the atmospheric conditions there for a stall.
But a few days worth of fuel, food, and clothes are not a bad idea.
doc540
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and deodorant
zxcvbob
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I *think* I remember Carla, but I was so young at the time it might just be false memories from hearing the old folks talk about it.
Did anybody here live near Alvin, TX back in 1979 or '80 when Claudette dumped 40-something inches of rain in 24 hours?
bdickens
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For those of you not familiar with Houston, those pictures show an area that is considerably below ground level.
Where I live (and yes, I am inside the city limits), We got no flooding whatsoever. The ditches didn't even get full.
Where I live (and yes, I am inside the city limits), We got no flooding whatsoever. The ditches didn't even get full.
Well, I'm about a 1/4 mile from the beach here at Galveston, I'm staying, but I stocked up on some canned goods, water, gassed up the truck, cleaned up the p32 with fresh ammo, pmcs'd my two chainsaws and generator. tho I don't expect it to be cataclysmic, I expect flooding, no power, for at least several hours. Best to be prepared. Been through Allison, and others, and just came back from Dolly. My old home was in the above mentioned Alvin area, our place stayed dry, but just down the street, people were out of luck. I suppose theres dry places and lucky people in all things, but I would not scoff at people who experienced otherwise and prepare accordingly.
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Lol.. I expect a few drops of rain while I'm running lines around people's houses so they can watch the news of the hurricane they magically degraded to a mild thunderstorm.
Nothing cool ever happens in Houston.
Nothing cool ever happens in Houston.
lgsracer
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Stay safe, living in hurricane country just outside of Bayou La Batre I know how you feel. I am glad I live in a filled concrete block house at 85 feet. I don't even evac for a cat 4. Ivan and Katarina just took off some shingles and knocked down some fence sections. Navy has it as a cat 1 at land fall.
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browningguy
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I sure hate when the news makes such a big deal out of an overgrown thunderstorm. I grew up in Florida and wnet through 8 or 9 hurricanes over a 25 year period, rode out two at sea in the Navy, had a couple of tropical storms since I moved to Houston in '96.
If you live in a flood prone area, just about anywhere inside the loop, you might not be able to drive around for a few days. Out in suburbia we have never had a problem at all. I was out golfing when Allison starting dumping, and didn't know anything was going on until my dad called from FLorida and told me we were under water.
I also don't have to buy a thing to be ready. I learned at a tender age to have enough provisions to get by for a week all the time.
If you live in a flood prone area, just about anywhere inside the loop, you might not be able to drive around for a few days. Out in suburbia we have never had a problem at all. I was out golfing when Allison starting dumping, and didn't know anything was going on until my dad called from FLorida and told me we were under water.
I also don't have to buy a thing to be ready. I learned at a tender age to have enough provisions to get by for a week all the time.
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