How are Turkish made shotguns?

[ArmedBear]

And while the Japanese have, perhaps the Turks have not yet embraced his ideas

Deming summed up what he thought of QC/QA thusly: “You can not inspect quality into the product; it is already there.”

 

[oneounceload]

AB - absolutely correct - tis a shame that the arrogant US mfg. companies in the 50s, 60,s and 70s. didn't listen - we are paying for it now. In the gun trade, it seems the transition takes an extra 20 years or so....but we are seeing it now in the way Remington is making guns, as well as the rest

 

[nicksterdemus]

http://www.trimports.com/commerce/ccp1988-huglu-eagle-

ultralight-1-0847.htm

$667 & new model.

Not your usual Turkish offering w/lightweight steel

receiver...
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At least I think it's not Aluminum alloy. The description is a little vague. It has steel inserts @ the hinge pins and the breech face, but it doesn't say the rest is aluminum. All it sez about the receiver is that it is black.

I e-mailed a query, so time will tell.

 

[JohnBT]

"The English gun trade, and the Spanish, and to some degree, the Italian are also set up the same way."

The English are rightfully famous because they made the system work. The Italians have done a fair job, and then there are the Spaniards and Turks. They certainly have produced some good guns, but getting one seems to be as chancy as rolling dice.

JT

 

[tactikel]

I have a Huglu 20 ga OU (now imported by CZ) and have found it to be a reliable, well made field gun. I've had it for 5 years and have about 3000 rounds thru it with no problems. It's my favorite upland game gun. While not as finely finished as a Beretta Onyx (and a few ounces heavier) it has served me well, and cost at the time $500 less. My friend just bought a CZ 28 ga SxS-Its very nice and he has had no problems, taking it afield for Woodcock/Grouse this last season.
I have a Browning Superposed 12 ga (pre-war) and would never take it into the swamps, cut overs, popple stands we bust for Grouse! Is the Huglu as well made? heck no, but it is certainly a serviceable gun for most applications.
Never buy a shotgun you cant hold, shoulder, and swing to see if it is right for you.

 

[natman]

DeHaan shotguns are made in Turkey and I would consider them a more middle teir shotgun. Upon close inspection though, they even have some tell tale make-this-as-cheap-as-possible corners cut.

I tend to think you better just stay away from Turkish shotguns. The best gun they make is the Stoeger/Beretta Couger which is a handgun.

There are some fans of Turkish made shotguns out there but those people are usually the more inexperienced shotgunners or they just want a beat around gun for the inlaws.

The DeHaan is a Huglu. Underneath the fancy wood and engraving it is the exact same shotgun sold by CZ for $750. Personally I'd rather have a bottom of the line Beretta with plain walnut and no engraving.

 

[Silly Rabbit]

bought one new, ok not really great, found a used beretta for same price, beretta kicks it butt for fit/finish/feel would stick italian or american even if you have to wait it out to get a used "deal"

 

[Y-man]

I agree about the QC issues with *some* Turkish shotguns. While Huglu and others might be "decent", there are a few other manufacturers you guys in the US might not be aware of. They manufacture POS shotguns and ship them to Africa, and Asia where we snap them up.

I bought one sometime back: a "Magnum EFE" that was "Made in by EFE-Turkey" (Can you imagine their grammar?!) 12ga Semi-Auto PGO, 7+1, smoothbore. I modified to fit a stock and cleaned it up. It served me for sometime, I used it for barely a year, and put barely 300rds of birdshot and slugs through it: did some hunting, and target shooting... Then one day, while hoping for some fowl on my table that night: I squeezed my trigger, and "Click!". Cleared it, reloaded, found the lucky bird: and "Click" again!

I unloaded it, and gingerly kept it in my truck then went home.
I took the shotgun apart, and discovered to my dismay that the firing pin was broken!

Of course: this was a major loss: there are no gunsmiths in my country that can fix this, (Of course we have very good smiths who can build guns from scratch here, but clean repairs? No.)

Well, I seem to have "lost" this shotgun: though, I have used the barrel to fabricate molds for home-made slugs, and I have kept the trigger group to use in one of my next projects: a crossbow!

I have a good old American Mossberg 500A now, I'm still working on training myself not to pull trigger twice instead of pumping before pulling the second time! (Still transitioning from Semi-auto to pump action...)

No cheap Turkish shotguns for me any more!