How did NC's permit system come about?

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I lived in Henderson as recently as 2006 and was still getting permits as described above. My experience was not that things went to hell in 2004. Things have definitely gone to hell here in Orange Co.
 
Honestly I didn't know each county had their own criteria for approval. I got my permits in Union County, just fill out the form and get them in the mail a few days later.

The whole law should obviously be repealed though. NC is in many ways unusual among Southern states.
 
I lived in Henderson as recently as 2006 and was still getting permits as described above. My experience was not that things went to hell in 2004. Things have definitely gone to hell here in Orange Co.
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Hmmm, maybe I got permits mixed up, or I'm thinking of another county.
 
I lived in Henderson as recently as 2006 and was still getting permits as described above. My experience was not that things went to hell in 2004. Things have definitely gone to hell here in Orange Co.
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No joke. But don't feel too bad about Orange County, they really give the shaft to everyone. At one level, I hate the shaft, on another level, at least it applies to everyone. Here is my example:

Back in 2000 I was a police officer for the Hillsborough Police Department (the Orange County seat, and therefore where the Sheriff's Office is located). At the time (I don't know if it still holds true) Orange County would only issue two purchase permits at any one time. I'd gotten two about a month prior for two handguns I had planned to purchase. I'd purchased both of them, and therefore I was permitless once again. So, I was working day shift one day. Nothing was happening, so I figured I'd drop by the Sheriff's Office and pick up a couple of permits in case I ran across a handgun I wanted to purchase.

So, I walk into the Sheriff's Office in full uniform. I tell the lady behind the desk that I need to get a couple of permits. She looks at my file, then walks out of view. A few minutes later a SO Sergeant comes out and starts to quiz me on why I need "so many" permits. He told me that I had just gotten two permits about a month ago and he wanted to know what I planned to do with these additional permits. We discussed it for a while, and for a bit I got the impression he was going to decline to let me get more permits. Eventually he had me amend my original permit application to show "collecting" as my reason for requesting permits and allowed me to get two more.

Shortly after that I moved to Alamance County and never had a problem getting as many permits as I wanted, no questions asked, and they didn't know I was a police officer since I still worked in Hillsborough.

I'm back living in Orange County again now, but with the CHP working the same as a purchase permit now, I haven't had to get a purchase permit from Orange SO. Interestingly enough, Orange SO never gave me any trouble at all when obtaining and renewing my CHP, it has just been over purchase permits.
 
I was wondering if N.C. will issue a non-resident CCP
I am retired from law enforcement and spend a lot of time in N.C.
I do have a permit to carry concealed in my state n.y. ??
 
As far as I know, NC does not issue non-resident permits. However, NC has reciprocity with quite a few states, including Virginia and Florida, both of which do issue non-resident permits. Nothing in NC law requires that the holder of a permit NC honors actually live in the state that issued the permit. So, for example you could get a Virginia non-resident permit and use that to carry legally in NC.

On the other hand, since you are retired LE, you might well also qualify to carry under LEOSA, and then don't need a permit at all.
 
Must've been you then, I don't go there much. I remember we chatted with Adam about IDPA, suppressors, CCW, etc.
 
Interestingly enough, Orange SO never gave me any trouble at all when obtaining and renewing my CHP, it has just been over purchase permits.
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that is because the SO has full authority over the processes and approvals/denials of purchase permits... the CCH on the other hand is state mandated as a shall issue... so they have less leeway to deny them...

one of the things about living here in NC that i despise immensely
 
Purchase permits are controlled by the local sheriff. CCH is controlled at the state level and once it is awarded you bypass the local controls.

Get your CCH permit and be done with it. It will make transportation to and from the range much more agreeable.

You those of you who ain't from around these part: NC is not a southern state. It is a liberal northeastern state geographically misplaced. It has the taxes of Mass and the legislators of the old south and the governor of a New Jersey or California. Local government is pretty good. State government genuinely sucks.
 
Polk county used to be really awesome. You could drop off your application and come back a couple of hours later or next AM and pick it up with no worries.
Now, there's all this notorizing and such, or so my dad tells me.

I kind of worry that with the influx of yankees that we'll get a lot of people voting who view their former home as normal and NC as the screwed up place and vote in laws like NY and Jersey have. That would be a massive series of steps backward.

I'm all for dismantling the Jim Crow laws. I'm all for less regulation. I just hope all those people who moved here and didn't bring their inside voices with them can keep their heads when they vote.
 
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Purchase permits (well at least for me anyway) In the state of NC are pretty easy to get. Not to much paperwork and you can get 5 at a time.

I never had a problem getting permits before I got my CHP either.

The problem is that there are 100 counties in NC and 100 different "rules" for issuing handgun purchase permits. A valid reason to deny a pistol purchase permit in NC is if the Sheriff "is not fully satisfied with the applicant's good moral character." If a sheriff says "I don't think so." for whatever reason they feel like saying, you would have to appeal his decision to the Chief District Court Judge for the district in which you made the application.

That's just one of the many reasons of why the law, as written, is bad./QUOTE]

I'll be damned,, NJ isnt alone in this nonsense....
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You those of you who ain't from around these part: NC is not a southern state. It is a liberal northeastern state geographically misplaced. It has the taxes of Mass and the legislators of the old south and the governor of a New Jersey or California. Local government is pretty good. State government genuinely sucks.
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Yes, but just look at what all we get for those taxes. Oh wait....never mind!
 
NC is not a southern state. It is a liberal northeastern state geographically misplaced.
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It's also oriented incorrectly. The east end is way more liberal north than the west end.

My situation with the permits wasn't too bad. It's just that we had one deputy doing them all and she wouldn't work on them until she had collected a big stack. She also never answered her phone and nobody else could tell you when you might get your permit. Then when you went to pick them up, you had to deal with the retiree snowbirds working the front desk. They were often quite opinionated and cranky. Had one argue with me about how a handgun was more dangerous than a shotgun. "Whatever, just hand me my permit please".

Purchasing using a CCL is soooo much better.
 
So what can we, as North Carolinians, do to get rid of this egregious anachronism?

What sort of background check do they conduct before giving you a permit that can't be done by the customary NICS when you buy a long arm?
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well, there is the turn your head and cough check... and if you are lucky, the nurse that does that one is old enough to have hands that shake...
 
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