How Did This Happen?

[peeplwtchr]

Hi All-

I found this while range pecking. I've been trying to figure out what/how this happened, and I'm stumped. Anyone have any idea?

BTW- The both cases are 9mm.

Thanks

 

[Walkalong]

Strange, looks like a 9MM case fired in a .40 with something that looks like a WC stuffed into it.

 

[peeplwtchr]

Strange, looks like a 9MM case fired in a .40 with something that looks like a WC stuffed into it.

Sorry, I edited the post after you read it. They're both 9mm. The top one is a berdan Tula.

 

[peeplwtchr]

I think maybe onto something? Could this be a case that failed to extract, but the next round was an empty case? Maybe misfire training? I have practiced that as well, but never had this happen. See the pic, the assumed empty case goes right up to the chamber.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I think maybe onto something? Could this be a case that failed to extract, but the next round was an empty case? Maybe misfire training? I have practiced that as well, but never had this happen. See the pic, the assumed empty case goes right up to the chamber.

someone tried to make a 9mm bullet with a steel case tula???? I’ve heard of crazier things

 

[splattergun]

It's a mini cocktail shaker.. for tiny martinis.

 

[Walkalong]

The only 9MM cases I have seen expanded like tat were from 9MM rounds fired in a .40.

 

[Mark_Mark]

It's a mini cocktail shaker.. for tiny martinis.

definitely will be a dirty martini

 

[peeplwtchr]

The only 9MM cases I have seen expanded like tat were from 9MM rounds fired in a .40.

Maybe I didn't articulate well. The top case was jammed into the bottom case, that's how I found it.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Maybe I didn't articulate well. The top case was jammed into the bottom case, that's how I found it.

was the primer on the brass struck?

 

[Walkalong]

Aha! Now I see, a rusty steel case stuck in a 9MM case that has been fired in a .40.

 

[peeplwtchr]

Aha! Now I see, a rusty steel case stuck in a 9MM case that has been fired in a .40.

It was difficult to pull the steel case out, which is why I think it must've been slammed in.

 

[troy fairweather]

Maybe a bored kid that found two funny looking cases and was messing around.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Maybe a bored kid that found two funny looking cases and was messing around.

future reloader kid

when I was a little boy, me and the little rug rats would find cases in the woods, fill with fire cracker powder and fuse, hammer shut …. and nothing happened but a fizz

 

[Akula69]

Someone was messing with you. We used to take a mis-fired 9 case (that had been shot in a .40) and jamb another 9 case in it once it was extracted. Then, we would muse about what the person who found it would think

 

[Mark_Mark]

Someone was messing with you. We used to take a mis-fired 9 case (that had been shot in a .40) and jamb another 9 case in it once it was extracted. Then, we would muse about what the person who found it would think

wow! so thats a thing people do? amusing

 

[Akula69]

wow! so thats a thing people do? amusing

Well...when you are the FI on the LEO range and want to make an example of a mistake (without actually reaming the officer who did it) you can 'create' a memory so they don't do it again.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Well...when you are the FI on the LEO range and want to make an example of a mistake (without actually reaming the officer who did it) you can 'create' a memory so they don't do it again.

did officers really fire 9mm in .40??? wow!

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Someone was messing with you. We used to take a mis-fired 9 case (that had been shot in a .40) and jamb another 9 case in it once it was extracted. Then, we would muse about what the person who found it would think

That's just mean, man. Funny but mean.

 

[Fooey]

I'd say a nine got mixed in with a 10mm or .40 on a progressive and is that lead in it or mud? looks like dried dirt. My neighbor use to be a weekend cop and the cop shop had a progressive press for any of them to use. None of them had any idea what they were doing. It was always broken. A RCBS inline progressive. After a bunch of squib loads and primer detonations they got rid of it before they got hurt. lol. When they had spare time a cop would sit there and load a few hundred and the others would take them out and try to shoot them.

 

[Pat Riot]

Little did anyone know at the time, but this was the first evidence of “machine mating”. The signs kept popping up everywhere. No one realized it until it was too late. The lowly metal forms had become aware through electrolysis and dissimilar metals. It wasn’t long before other metal structures began merging and mating and multiplying. Then came the war…






Sorry.

 

[Riomouse911]

Little did anyone know at the time, but this was the first evidence of “machine mating”. The signs kept popping up everywhere. No one realized it until it was too late. The lowly metal forms had become aware through electrolysis and dissimilar metals. It wasn’t long before other metal structures began merging and mating and multiplying. Then came the war…






Sorry.

At the rate we are going this image may be prophetic…

Until then, people will keep shoving smaller cases into larger ones to prank folks at the range.

Stay safe.

 

[jmorris]

Looks like a steel case nested inside a case fired from the wrong chamber. Because gravity has them sitting at the bottom of the chamber, they are almost always fire formed to the chamber off center.



If you don’t sort your brass before you tumble them, you will find lots of 9mm in .40 cases, in 45 ACP cases.

Wouldn’t surprise me that someone not. Paying attention to important things like using the correct ammunition for the firearm might be goofing off with inconsequential/useless activities things, like nesting cases on purpose…

 

[Akula69]

did officers really fire 9mm in .40??? wow!

Yes. More often than you think. We would get 1K cases of loose range rounds (sealed in plastic) and leave them on the bench for the guys to load before qualifying. Someone exiting the range would dump the remaining live rounds in their mags into the box without checking to see if the box was marked .40 or 9MM. It kinda redefined searching for a needle in a haystack to fish out 1-2 9MM rounds from a box of .40, so we would depend on the officer to WATCH while loading the mags

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Looks like a steel case nested inside a case fired from the wrong chamber. Because gravity has them sitting at the bottom of the chamber, they are almost always fire formed to the chamber off center.

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If you don’t sort your brass before you tumble them, you will find lots of 9mm in .40 cases, in 45 ACP cases.

Wouldn’t surprise me that someone not. Paying attention to important things like using the correct ammunition for the firearm might be goofing off with inconsequential/useless activities things, like nesting cases on purpose…

Is it even possible someone loaded a 9mm case inside another 9mm case and fired it out of a .40s&w? Seems pretty unlikely but…