Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by brewer12345, Mar 24, 2021.
I've moved to AIWB mostly but the same holds true.
What is AIWB?
gun up front.
Looks like the "shoot myself in the junk" carry position, heh.
Thinner guns help at around the 4 o'clock position (just past your hip).
I’m tooo fat for that.
I carry in a Kydex holster but it comes up high enough that no metal from the gun is touching me.
I also carry at roughly a 35-45 degree angle. Instead of having the pistol straight up any down the grip is canted forward. Not only do I find this more comfortable but I also find it easier to grip correctly quickly.
I never could carry in the front of my body because my gut gets in the way.
I have carried, using a lefty holster, in the small of my back. I found that the most comfortable but not the quickest to draw.
Here’s something nobody tells you but after you find out it sounds self explanatory:
Get a pair of pants a half to a full size larger in the waist and a shirt the next size up.
It's hard because everyone is so different. Most comfortable, in my opinion would be either a full leather, like the Milt Sparks Criterion, or one of the hybrid kydex/leather backed options like Crossbreed, Aliengear, Comp tac minotaur or any number of other options.
I find those more comfortable at the 3 o'clock spot but sadly that doesn't conceal best with my body type, so I stick with a single clip kydex, my favorite is Vedder Light tuck, at 1-2 o'clock.
For comfort, I've found I never find a gun truly comfortable or "forget it's there", it's always at least a little noticable IWB or OWB, but if I stick with a new setup for a couple weeks it gets much more tolerable.
Even the same relative size holster for a slightly different gun takes a bit for my body to adjust to, so I would never expect a new holster to feel good for at least a few weeks of every day carry.
But also as noted, a good stiff belt (leather or nylon, I prefer nylon) really helps and buying a size up on your pants can help, bit I haven't found fully necessary*.
* Of note, even before carry I always wore a belt. I have thicker thighs and any waist size that didn't need a belt to stay up is ludicrously uncomfortable in my legs and crotchal region, so I probably am already a size too big on even my jeans that "fit" without a gun.
Brewer12345, I'm not trying to sound flippant - I really am trying to do exactly as Hangingrock said, "Take 2 plus inches" off my waist measurement (from 38+ down to 36) so that I can comfortably carry my Glock 19 IWB - without buying bigger pants and a longer belt.
I'm getting there. And when I do, trying out the IWB holster I bought when I bought my Glock 19 last spring will be my reward.
Not flippant at all. The battle of the bulge is one I fight at least a skirmish on every day. Several years ago I lost a bunch of weight (20+ pounds), but I simply could not keep it off. So these days I just shoot for stability within a narrow range and when I am feeling optimistic I try to move the range down a little bit at a time.
I have solid belts, so that isn't too much of an issue. Guess I will have to look for an appropriate holster and try it with my baggiest pants.
Then comes the crying when experimenting with holsters. Maybe you can get lucky with the first one but most likely it will be progressively more crying as more and more money is spent on each holster until you find the right one.
I went straight to a Belt Man belt and a Milt Sparks Versa Max holster for my Browning Hi Power and that worked out perfectly. Most comfortable carry of any gun I have ever had.
A good holster is also necessary: Milt Sparks VM2.
Your pants and belt will need ~1.5" to spare.
I mostly wear Carhartt or Duluth carpenter pants rather than jeans. The Duluth pants have a short of built in pocket holster. a loop in the bottom of the pocket that holds the muzzle.
What size gun do you do this with?
IWB seemed like an obvious solution But it proved uncomfortable, and it was difficult to draw quickly.
I now carry OWB, with an untucked shirt or a sport coat.
There are several things which contribute to comfortable IWB carry.
First, the belt/holster (two things) cannot be understated.
Belt: Must be sturdy enough to support the not-insignificant weight of the pistol and holster. Spend the money to get a good one, or you'll just end up spending the money later after discovering this the hard way.
Holster: There are many styles out there, and there are also many different levels of quality as well. This, too, is a field where "you get what you pay for". You want a holster that will properly house the weapon, which includes the trigger guard and the manual safety (if any). You will want one that will fit your belt width and properly secure the holster so that it does not shift around.
Search the titles for "holsters" and read through some of the threads.
Again...if you don't get a quality holster, you'll just end up buying one later when you discover this the hard way.
Second: Body geometry.
Like it or not, body shape makes a difference. It makes a BIG difference. If you have a gut, then appendix carry probably isn't going to work for you. Carrying a spare tire around limits your options here. If you're serious about wanting to carry IWB and you're carrying some extra weight, you might honestly want to trim down some.
Third: Personal preference.
Personal preference is important because not everybody likes, or is comfortable, with carrying certain ways. For me, as an IWB carrying guy, I am not going to appendix carry. There's just something not right to me about having a loaded gun pointing at my junk or my femoral artery. However, plenty of other people carry appendix carry and that's perfectly fine.
I carry strong side IWB at about the 4 O'clock position. It works for me, including when I'm driving or riding in vehicles.
What, exactly, is "uncomfortable" about carrying IWB for you? We can better help you if we know what your perceived problem is.
I've tried IWB, OWB, leather kydex, ..... For an IWB hybrid, the (far and away) most comfortable holster I've found in the Stealth Gear Revolution. https://stealthgearusa.com/ I carried a 1911 in a Theis hybrid for a few years, then carried a G19 in a CBST for a few years. The ventilated back on the SG Revolution makes a world of difference.
And throw my vote in with the crowd that said "get a good belt."
It has been so long since I tried that I don't remember.
Ive carried IWB most of my life, and at around 4-4:30. These days I carry AIWB, just not as centered as the pic above.Wish Id switched a lot sooner too.
I wear my normal sized clothes. Over-sized clothes look like they don't fit and don't look natural, unless maybe you wear those kinds of shorts.
I like the Wilderness Rigger or Frequent Flyer belts. Stiff, comfortable, and infinitely adjustable. The FF isn't as "gun" looking, and mostly what I use these days.
Ive had great luck with Blade Tech kydex holsters and still use them. They helped stop most of my rusting problems, and are comfortable. Especially so if your tee shirt rides up and the holster ends up against bare skin. Wet leather against bare skin is miserable and painful, especially after a long day.
This is how I AIWB. A little more off to about 12:45 - 1:00 than 12:00.
Yes indeed. I went from a 36” waist to a 33” and IWB became very comfortable.
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