How do I pick the right SKS?

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I'm going to the gun shop later today to pick up an SKS (my first). My dealer has a few Chinese ("new" in the box) for $300 each, and 2 Yugos for $200 each. I'm planning on picking up one, or both of the Yugos.

What I need to know is how do I know if the Yugos are good? Both of them are in excellent cosmetic condition. I'm not familiar enough with the SKS action to be able to identify typical problems or dangerous wear. Can you give me some pointers as to what to look for on these guns?

Thanks!
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Or, find a friend with an FFL, (Or get yourself a C&R License) and order from J&G, or AIM Surplus, or Southern Ohio Gun, or one of many others that has the Yugos for half the price or less. Get one of the new or unused models. I did that. Arrived coated in cosmoline but cleaned up nicely and shoots great. :D

Ordering may take you a day or two more, but it will probably be well worth it.

The Doc is out now. :cool:
 
Didn't see any at aimsurplus, J&G was over $200 for excellent condition, and I couldn't see prices at Ohio. Cheapest Yugo SKSs on gunbroker are going right now for @ $170 (before shipping, transfer fee).

How long ago did you get your SKS for "half" the price ($100)? The $195+tax charged by my dealer seems to be a fair deal for an "excellent" Yugo.
 
Look at the Bore (Even though Yugo's are not Chrome lined) if kept clean it could be Bright,but good is ok as long as it's not dark and well worn. if you have to pick from the 2 yugo's (Just buy both and you can sell one to a Buddy later) Make sure all visible #'s match and see if the Ammo Pouches and Banjo Oilers and oiler pouchs,slings Etc. are with guns...
 
How do I pick the right SKS?
The one you don't buy.
Over the years I have has several, none were are that great a gun. Fun to blast away with, cheap, and ammo usta be very cheap but none I ever had would shoot very accurately, were heavy, bulky, a pain to load etc.
I just traded my last one for a Marlin 39 Sunday, this will be my 3rd 39 and I imagine it will be my last SKS. Get one if the lighter ones would be my advice as some are very heavy.
 
Look for matching numbers, on the stock, receiver cover, trigger guard, magazine, etc.
Also, try to get the one with the best bore, to me that's more important than the wood or matching parts.

I love the Yugos. Machined out of solid steel, reliable, more accurate than my AK, super easy to load with stripper clips, easy to take down and clean. As long as you get a good one from the start you can't go wrong. They're only appreciating in value now too. Unissued rifles were going for $150 a year or so ago in my area, now I can't find one under $275.

The Chinese are nice too, if I could find a nice paratrooper I would pick one up.

For more info on SKS's than you'll ever need, go here: http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php
 
SLV, you're running into the same situation as me. I've looked online, but it seems the "$150 for excellent" days are about over. Add to that the FFL fee and shipping and buying local for 200 to 225 is what I ended up doing too. And I have someone to go back to if there's a problem after the fact. I think we'll soon be remembering when they could be had for $200!
 
Or, find a friend with an FFL, (Or get yourself a C&R License) and order from J&G, or AIM Surplus, or Southern Ohio Gun, or one of many others that has the Yugos for half the price or less.

DrLaw, somehow I feel that you may not have been SKS shopping for a little while. SKS supplies (at least in my area) have dried up and the prices are going through the roof.

In addition...
AIM Surplus - out of stock
J&G - $200-$230
 
Ze,

Dr. Law is correct. The prices for C&R holders are A LOT less than what you will pay in a gunshop: for example, I can still get Yugo SKS rifles from Southern Ohio Gun for 124.95 (Shooter Grade) and 159.95 for Excellent Grade.

These are the wholesale prices that dealers pay for their guns from such wholesale outlets as AIMSurplus, Southern Ohio Gun, and other companies.

Now the Yugos are the only SKS rifles available in any quantity from the wholesalers, so if you want one of them, now's definitely the time to get them.

As for SKS choices, I'd personally get the Chinese SKS. It's simple, robust, and doesn't have that useless grenade launcher on the end of it. Yugos are prone to having gas tube problems due to the selector switch for the grenade launcher often turning your semi-automatic rifle into a slide bolt action rifle. Others to get if you have the chance: Russian, and Albanian. I have an Albanian, and it's just a wierd one that fits well into my collection.
 
Skip the SKS. Get a Saiga. My Yugo is way too heavy with all that added BS on the barrel.

But if you're dead set on one, be careful with the firing pin channel. Something flaked off inside and prevented the firing pin from protruding full enough to ignite the primers on mine. The pin was literally stuck halfway out.

Hopefully all that cosmo is cleaned out. It took me 4 awful hours of using a steam wand and paper towels to fully de-cosmo the thing.
 
So, I went to the gun store, and I learned that my dealer actually had about 20 SKS carbines "in the box" (and in the cosmoline) in the back room. They were all distributed by Samco and graded in "Excellent" condition. The dealer doesn't like to open a lot of boxes, but he let me look at them before committing to buy them. I passed up one that was in rougher condition, and I ended up with a couple that looked pretty good. One is in "like new" condition, but it shows evidence of being refurbished (sanding).

I took the nicer of the two (a 1972 "I" series w/non-ported GL and phosphorus night sights - the other is a 1967 "D" series non-ported w/tritium night sights) and broke it down to de-cosmo it. I was up until 1:00 a.m. before completing the task. Here are my conclusions after disassembling and de-cosmolining my first SKS:

1. I LOVE the smell of cosmoline! I told my wife she should dab some behind her ears (my wife --> :scrutiny:).

2. The SKS is many times more complex than the AK, but the disassembly levers work well... except for the trigger group spring - pain in the butt.

3. Mineral spirits and a tooth brush took car of all the cosmoline except the "crannies" in the trigger assembly - I don't think I'll ever get all the cosmo out of there. Every time I would blow it out with my air compressor some more cosmoline would streak out. I decided that it was OK if some of the nooks and crannies still had a little cosmo left over. For all of the whining I've read about cosmoline I didn't think it was that bad. I considered it to be bonding time with my "new" gun.

4. Four hours of scrubbing with mineral spirits will leave you with a TREMENDOUS headache (36 hours later - still have a headache). Next time I will do this outside on the patio.

5. All in all I like the quality of the gun. Machined parts are sturdy and fit tightly. It may be heavy, but it is solid.

The gun that looked nicer actually had two problems I found when disassembling it: 1) the very tip of the bayonett is broken off, and 2) the threads on the cleaning rod are smashed. I was going to switch bayonetts with the other gun, but the screw is set with two punch marks. I did switch cleaning rods, and I wil chase the threads on the one.

My dealer (Jensen Arms, Loveland, CO - the largest volume gun dealer in Colorado according to the BATF) told me that when his SKS carbines are gone they are GONE. He expected them to sell out in the next 2 weeks, and he said he can't get any more. This was the owner I was talking to. I'm going back in today for one or two more. I did some research here, http://yugosks.net/, so today I will just look at the serial numbers on the boxes to improve my chances of getting a cherry gun. I'd like to find a serial number 650,000 or higher (1982-1989) to find one that never saw action.

I highly recommend the above link if you own a Yugo, or if you would like to collect them. I wish I had that information when I went in a couple nights ago.

I fired the Yugo three times in my back yard last night (I live on a farm). I REALLY liked the feel, and the action was real smooth.
 
1. I LOVE the smell of cosmoline

Me too, and now that it's in your blood, you are a goner.

3. Mineral spirits and a tooth brush took car of all the cosmoline except the "crannies" in the trigger assembly - I don't think I'll ever get all the cosmo out of there. Every time I would blow it out with my air compressor some more cosmoline would streak out.

For the trigger group, I got an old pot, filled it with water, put it on the side burner of my BBQ pit, got the water boiling, and dropped the trigger group in for a few minutes. The cosmo will boil right off. Take it out, blow it with compressed air, soak it liberally with Breakfree CLP, shake, and you are good to go. If you don't get it all out, eventually the burnt powder and other crude can get down in there and gum up the works.

Sounds like you did good. Get them while you can. I have three. One completely unissued, cleaned, and in the safe as a safe queen for my 4 yr old son to have one day. I've never shot it, and it is in perfect condition. One a "shooter" grade that gets all my shooting attention and lots of rounds through it. And another "excellent" grade still completely in the cosmo, also in the safe. I'll get around to cleaning it one day and making it my second shooter.

Did you get all the cosmo out of the firing pin channel? That's most important, to prevent the possibility of slam fires down the road.
 
I acutally enjoy shooting the SKS over an AK its much more comfy and better cheekweld..

As for country to buy..Chinese is the best bang for the buck these days chrome lined barrel..Look for matching numbers even if it does not have mataching numbers if its good shape go for it..
 
I would go for a new...

Chinese. Of all the SKS I have, the Chinese rifles are the best shooters.....you will never wear one out, unless you abuse it.......chris3
 
I got an yugo sks like it but if I was going to choice for one bang for the buck gun it would be the saiga also for not that much more. Got one coming. In my case even less since I paid too much for the rifle and then mod it with a new stock and detachable mags. I know I did not have to but I just had to.
 
I've got a whole flock of Saigas and they are great. My dealer has "NIB" Chinese SKS carbines (imported 17 years ago - never opened) for $350. I just think the Yugo in Cosmo for $193 is a great deal. In fact, I'm leaving right now to pick up another while there is still a good selection.
 
About 8 mos ago I passed on two Chinese paratroopers priced at $200 each at a local shop. Looked like twin trade ins. They both looked to be completely unfired, or fired very rarely. I'm still kicking myself for that.

If I could find a Russian in good shape under $300 I'd probably get it.

About the AK's...I've got a WASR, and I like it. But I'd much rather shoot my SKS. It's more accurate and the length of pull on the stock is longer and fits me better.
 
Four hours of scrubbing with mineral spirits will leave you with a TREMENDOUS headache

The easiest way I've found so far is to remove the stock, break the gun down into it's major groups and haul it to the coin op car wash. You can get 99% of the cosmo out in just a few minutes. Any that you miss will be easy enough to clean out at home.

I sure wish I could find some local deals like you folks are finding. I'd hop on a good deal on D models. Wouldn't mind finding another Albanian cheap also.
 
I recently bought a Chinese SKS, my first. I have had several Yugos and a Russian, but I found my 1968 Chinese to be the best shooter.
It's machined, solid, chrome lined, great smooth trigger, the most accurate SKS or AK I have ever had.

I think you guys are right about them drying up.

Buy a very good one and keep it, and buy lots of ammo and stripper clips.
Don't waste your money on lots of "accessories".Just a sling and a sight tool will do it.

Good luck
ADDED: Pick one with the best bore you can find, and remember: the SKS accuracy can be very much improved by smoothing out the trigger group and using decent ammo instead of surplus crap. These two things alone will give you very good groups,by as much as 1/2 size of what you were shooting before.
They are excellent rifles for what they were intended to do.Also, you might want to look at MOJO rear sights, the only aftermarked product I'd recommend for the SKS.
Mark
 
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