Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by milemaker13, Jun 21, 2018.
Regardless of the quality of the lockbox, I would not be comfortable with a cable secured model.
I really like the Toyota RAV4 2007-2012 and FJ Cruiser with the "hidey-hole" below the floor in the back. Serious below-floor, out of sight storage for tools, survival supplies, and perhaps firearms. Not lockable, but under the carpet and floor mat is a brilliant storage solution.
I've had my car broken into once. Smashed rear side window and gained access to car. He raided the loose-change compartment in the dash board and the contents of the center console. He got my checkbook and a credit card.
The center console is not a safe place to secure a hand gun. In a pinch, I have used the removable panels in the back of a mini van or SUV where tire iron and jack are stored to stash a firearm and ammo. IMHO, super strong boxes bolted through the floor are the only answer to deterring theft. And they are not a perfect answer because they are not a perfect design.
I kinda doubt it.
A Subaru is kind of a deep cover/concealment around here...
Yes, its possibly based on location.
Smash and grab thefts are quick and easy for most thieves. It doesn't matter if your car is locked or not. If you leave a valuable item within plain view (computer, phone, etc) all they have to do is smash your windows and grab the items. In a large parking lot/garage, no one will notice right away when you smash a car window.
As mentioned earlier, keep your valuables out of view. If you have to leave them in your vehicle, put it in a safe or in the trunk.
Then you either don't carry, you never have to visit places where carrying a firearm is illegal (lucky you), or you occasionally break the law.
Exactly! And as I said in my first post in this thread, we live 30 miles (60 miles round trip) from town. Now while 60 miles might not seem like "long distance," I don't want to travel it without my carry piece. Yet once we get to town, we occasionally have to visit the County Courthouse to pay taxes or renew licenses. And at our age, we occasionally have to visit the Social Security Office.
There are great big "No Weapons" signs on the doors of both the County Courthouse and the Social Security Office. And just inside those doors, there are great big armed guards manning metal detectors that make sure those "No Weapons" signs are obeyed.
So, my wife and I are left with a choice - either leave our CCWs at home when we go to town, or lock them in the vehicle when we visit the places where weapons are not allowed. BTW, there's a lot more places than just the County Courthouse and the Social Security Office where weapons are not allowed. But there's also a lot more places my wife and I visit while we're in town running errands that don't have "No Weapons" signs on their doors. And in all of those places, we carry - which we couldn't do if we left our carry pieces at home because we were worried about locking them in the vehicle while we are visiting the places that do have "No Weapons" signs on their doors.
I wish we never had to visit places where we aren't allowed to carry weapons. But sometimes we do.
My favorite is under the floor mat. It's pretty invisible under my thick rubber floormats, so I bet the car could be ransacked and it wouldn't be found, but I know obscurity is not something to rely on.
I do carry
I don't visit places where carrying a firearm is illegal while carrying a firearm
I don't break the law, occasionally or regularly
You’d be shocked how many hunter and gun owner types in Texas tell me I’m going to go to jail for carrying an AR in the rack in my truck. The last guy who told me that I though he was talking about the suppressor (since he is a huge weekend hunter, deer lease type), I was like no I have paperwork for that. He was like, you have a permit to carry that AR? I told him no permit needed it’s perfectly fine. He tried to tell me if I got pulled over “the police around here” would take me to jail. I’m Baffled at what the anti gun culture has done to people. The good thing is law enforcement seem to be pro gun still. No troopers I’ve been pulled over by cared at all. None have treated me like a criminal or anything, though I’d been likely speeding to cause our interaction!
In my circle I’ve only known of one vehicle robbery where the window was smashed. So like 10% maybe. Nothing of value was visible and the thief left several hundred in tools, a small baggie with a little diamond in it, an iPod, but only took a $25 pot metal 22 revolver with snake shot in it. The guy didn’t even know what model it was to tell the police! Just that sometimes you had to pull the trigger multiple times to get it to go off!
That's not what I said. What I said was, "you never have to visit places where carrying a firearm is illegal (lucky you)"
Some (most) of us DO have to visit places where carrying a firearm is illegal. So I still say - lucky you!
Why is that? Why would it be better to voluntarily or otherwise restrict gun possession to fewer locations rather than to proliferate it to many? I see the point to having it on your person rather than in the car, but why not both?
OK, no luck involved. I guess you planned your life very well in that you never have to go to the post office, you don't work in a building where it's illegal to carry a firearm, and you can check your gun in and back out at the only courthouse you ever visit.
Well good for you! Is that better?
You are the one who seems to have a problem here, not me. Obviously you and I have different situations, and I answered the OP and your questions honestly
That ok with you, chief?
No problem. Obviously you and I do have different situations. Very different.
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