How does the Bersa thunder 380 compare to the Walther ppk?
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Mad Magyar
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IMHO, the PPK outweighs the Bersa in all categories; except weight....I'd have to look at Gun Tests to see if there are any reliablity data to compare..
If there was a choice to be made between the two, the Bersa would be in the minority....
If there was a choice to be made between the two, the Bersa would be in the minority....
jaysouth
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Buy the Bersa. Don't get a Walther unless you like horrible recoil, terrible reliabiltiy, terrible accuracy and getting stitches in the web of your shooting hand.
The PPK is a neat looking gun but its 1920 technology.
The PPK is a neat looking gun but its 1920 technology.
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MedWheeler
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Bersa is a little bigger (not enough to make a difference), holds one more round, and is matte-finished (most of them are.) The Bersa also has a slide-lock. I found it easier to shoot due to a thicker and larger grip, better beavertail, and slightly better sight radius.
The fit and finish of the Walther seemed better, and the gun was a little easier to conceal (I had the PPK/S.) I did not own both at the same time, so I never did a side-by-side shootout with them. I do remember being pleased with the accuracy and function of the PPK/S; it has been many years since I had it. I've found the Bersa to be, for me at least, just as good.
The fit and finish of the Walther seemed better, and the gun was a little easier to conceal (I had the PPK/S.) I did not own both at the same time, so I never did a side-by-side shootout with them. I do remember being pleased with the accuracy and function of the PPK/S; it has been many years since I had it. I've found the Bersa to be, for me at least, just as good.
I'm honestly not a fan of either of them, but will give you as much of an unbiased opinion that I can for both of them. The PPK has a much better fit and finish, and doesn't come packed in grease. The Bersa is considerably cheaper, and just as reliable. Both guns recoil too hard for me to go through more than a box of ammo at the range with, which I guess could be a good thing as the price of .380 is crazy nowadays. I've also never been anything other than absurdly accurate with both guns. Out of both, the Bersa still resides with me, as it's somewhat more pleasant to shoot, and has slightly more comfortable grips.
makarovnik
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Get the Bersa or two. If you like nice classic .380's consider the Sig 232.
lanternlad1
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Here's a nice little video comparing the Walther, Sig, Bersa and Makarov. If you really want a good gun, get a Makarov.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tYL6VXm1mo&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tYL6VXm1mo&feature=channel
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Walthers have love bites that you'll remember for the rest of your life.
Although, for me, so does a Bersa Thunder 45.
Although, for me, so does a Bersa Thunder 45.
mharveyww1
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I Bought Both!
I had this irrational need to get a "007" gun!
So i bought the Walther PPKs......without shooing it first. (I know,I know)
I'll spare you the details of weight and awkwardness of carrying IWB failures to feed and to eject. And yes - it CAN and DOES bite (hard)!
I returnd it in less than a week. The store owner then showed me the BERSA
.380 CC. It's a "clone" of the PPKs, but the Bersa folks have added some external refinements that turned the "beast" into a "beauty'.
Unfortunately, it still was too bulky and heavy for the type of CC that I need.
In a rather short period of time I bought the Ruger LCP, Ruger LCR, Kahr P380,
KelTec P3AT, S&W Centennial Airweight and a Sig P238!
They ALL had drawbacks. Too big, too heavy, too much recoil, too hard to hide, and few of them fit my hand comfortably enough to allow me to quickly engage with satisfactory accuracy.
The ALL went back to the dealer!
Bless his heart, he actually made ONE MORE suggestion:
Try the new Diamond Back .380.
It was love at first hold! And stepping over to the shooting range...it consistently puts 7 rounds within the 9 ring at 15 feet, hand-held with no rest or support. And I can put 'em all within the 8 ring at 25'!
That's more than "good enough" or my purposes.
The DIAMOND BACK is extremely well built and the shape of the grip feeds recoil straight back, through the pistol's composite handle and, somehow (magically?) the felt recoil is more like a .25. Put a Hogue Hand-All Jr. over the grips and you've got a nice soft kitty...not a Wildcat.
Two former employees of KelTec started the company and they certainly figured out what a true pocketgun needs to be.
I've run more than 500 rounds of various types (FMJ, JHP, Hornady Extreme Protection hollow-point and Frangible rounds like the Glasers) through this pistol so far, with not one problem!
If you're looking for the perfect pocket gun...check the Diamond Backs out beore you buy. If it fits YOU like it does ME..it'll sell itself!
Mike Harvey
I had this irrational need to get a "007" gun!
So i bought the Walther PPKs......without shooing it first. (I know,I know)
I'll spare you the details of weight and awkwardness of carrying IWB failures to feed and to eject. And yes - it CAN and DOES bite (hard)!
I returnd it in less than a week. The store owner then showed me the BERSA
.380 CC. It's a "clone" of the PPKs, but the Bersa folks have added some external refinements that turned the "beast" into a "beauty'.
Unfortunately, it still was too bulky and heavy for the type of CC that I need.
In a rather short period of time I bought the Ruger LCP, Ruger LCR, Kahr P380,
KelTec P3AT, S&W Centennial Airweight and a Sig P238!
They ALL had drawbacks. Too big, too heavy, too much recoil, too hard to hide, and few of them fit my hand comfortably enough to allow me to quickly engage with satisfactory accuracy.
The ALL went back to the dealer!
Bless his heart, he actually made ONE MORE suggestion:
Try the new Diamond Back .380.
It was love at first hold! And stepping over to the shooting range...it consistently puts 7 rounds within the 9 ring at 15 feet, hand-held with no rest or support. And I can put 'em all within the 8 ring at 25'!
That's more than "good enough" or my purposes.
The DIAMOND BACK is extremely well built and the shape of the grip feeds recoil straight back, through the pistol's composite handle and, somehow (magically?) the felt recoil is more like a .25. Put a Hogue Hand-All Jr. over the grips and you've got a nice soft kitty...not a Wildcat.
Two former employees of KelTec started the company and they certainly figured out what a true pocketgun needs to be.
I've run more than 500 rounds of various types (FMJ, JHP, Hornady Extreme Protection hollow-point and Frangible rounds like the Glasers) through this pistol so far, with not one problem!
If you're looking for the perfect pocket gun...check the Diamond Backs out beore you buy. If it fits YOU like it does ME..it'll sell itself!
Mike Harvey
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I had the bersa cc model and traded it. Regret that.
bikerdoc
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While recovering from two neck operations this Bersa 380 CC resided in my Right front jean pocket every day. Comfortable, no printing, 90 gr corbon jhp= very comforting.
That said I went back to my CZ 9mm compact as soon as I was able.
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That said I went back to my CZ 9mm compact as soon as I was able.
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gglass
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My wife and daughter both had Bersa's. My wife's was the CC model and my daughter's was the duo-tone model. I said "had" because they both lost confidence in these otherwise fine firearms, when each had their disconnector springs break (when this occurs, the trigger will not function). This is by far the most common problem with the Bersa Thunder 380 line of pistols. To see just how common, take a gander at the tech section of the BersaTalk forums.
At nearly $50 to overnight ship the handgun to a Bersa authorized gunsmith, any savings one might see with a Bersa are soon gone.
At nearly $50 to overnight ship the handgun to a Bersa authorized gunsmith, any savings one might see with a Bersa are soon gone.
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