What if they believe you are racist and that it is a mental disease? Or what if they are a muslim and declare you addicted to substances for any admission of drinking?
Psychiatrist right here guy. Love steak and have 7 AR's (not including 8 unbuilt lowers). Our only litmus test is whether someone is an imminent threat to themselves or others. Examples would be people who are actively suicidal or homicidal AND have the intention to do something, or if they are manic or psychotic.Have you read any local news comments. Psychiatrists come from the same population.
I work at the VA half of the week. VA doctors get bonuses for completing periodic "reminders". These are questionnaires which include questions about firearms. Don't ask the questions, then you don't get the bonuses (not to mention a supervisor will want to know why you're not completing your reminders). If you don't like it, then complain to the Secretary of Veteran's Affairs- asking those questions at every single patient visit is a function of bureaucracy.Well, you have obviously never had a conversation with a VA shrink.
Well, you have obviously never had a conversation with a VA shrink.
I hope our representatives are smart enough to come up with a system that takes that into account.
Some days, I feel THR could really use a stickied thread of individuals with professional or scientific expertise in firearms and gun policy related issues so we can address these sorts of concerns and dispel myths more effectively.Psychiatrist right here guy. Love steak and have 7 AR's (not including 8 unbuilt lowers). Our only litmus test is whether someone is an imminent threat to themselves or others. Examples would be people who are actively suicidal or homicidal AND have the intention to do something, or if they are manic or psychotic.
I started medical school in 1985. In the last few years, my impression is that a lot of the new docs coming up the pike are more and more liberal. Many support single payor systems and many are into income redistribution in part through the medical system.Oh yes, the local news comments. I'm sure MDs have nothing better to do than spend tons of time expressing their opinions there.
Its up to the individual psychiatrist to determine if you have freedom or not. What if they believe you are racist and that it is a mental disease? Or what if they are a muslim and declare you addicted to substances for any admission of drinking?
Not a matter of declaring someone sane or insane in most instances with mental health issues. Here is a good review of NICS from a mental health perspective for health professionals:As was noted up thread, a mental health/behavioral health provider has to apply a real diagnosis from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, and those disorders have clearly defined symptoms and diagnostic criteria. So a psychologist can't just label you insane because they perceive your belief system to be racist. If you tell them you have daily conversations with an archangel sent by the Lord instructing you to be a racist, you may be in trouble . . .
The best available national data suggest that only 3%–5% of violent acts are attributable to serious mental illness (13), and most of those acts do not involve guns (14). Most studies concur that the added risk of violence, if any, conferred by the presence of a serious mental disorder is small (15).
This is not true. It's clear that a person making such a statement in this scenario is being figurative. There is no rule, regulation, or mandate that I record, document, or report such a statement.Here is what doctors in CA are encountering. A patient comes in for treatment of mild depression. The doctor asks the normal questions and the patient says my supervisor at work makes me so mad I could kill him. The doctor has to report this statement even if he knows this person is non violent to cover his ass. In the future we are going to have to choose our words very carefully if doctors get involved with the RKBA. The doctors at the VA and in CA are going to be setting precedent for mental health evaluations if it goes nationwide. I don't like the idea of doctors being forced to say someone is not fit to have a gun for financial reasons.
We need to focus on providing mental health care for everyone that needs it instead of scaring everyone that owns a gun away from seeking help. Doctors should make real evaluations instead of something cooked up by a congressman that is ignorant of the mental health care system or has a motive to make as many people unfit to own a gun as possible.
The best thing we can do as gun owners is make make mental health care affordable for everyone that needs it. But doctors should not have the final say on your RKBA. It should be a combination of mental health history and criminal record. Just because someone is blowing of a little steam should not be a reason to lose the RKBA. That is exactly what we have going on in CA right now.
I don't have the answers to screening people who are potential mass murders but I can say the examples I have seen are not going to work.
I'm an MD and have called more than my share of psychiatric consults....Psychiatrist right here guy. Love steak and have 7 AR's (not including 8 unbuilt lowers). Our only litmus test is whether someone is an imminent threat to themselves or others. Examples would be people who are actively suicidal or homicidal AND have the intention to do something, or if they are manic or psychotic.