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How long do we really think it will take for a BAN ?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by jcramin, Nov 5, 2008.

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  1. jcramin

    jcramin Member

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    I hope this is ok to ask here, im just curios on others opinions on this.

    Honest question and would like honest opinions.

    Bill Clinton was sworn in on January 20, 1993

    The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 was passed and signed into law on September 13, 1994

    With all the other problems our new prez will have to deal with, Do you think another law will pass like that and how long do you think it will take to pass another law like that ?
     
  2. jackdanson

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    No one knows, anything is speculation. My GUESS is that if there is a school shooting etc., that is when they make their move. They already have it drafted.
     
  3. BHP FAN

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    My guess?somewhere in the new administration's first year,Remember,you heard it here,first.Gird your loins....
     
  4. 1 old 0311

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    The anti's have been waiting for this FOREVER. It will be at the top of the plate.:(:(:(
     
  5. armoredman

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    Heller may be a bit of a stumbling block to them, we can hope.
     
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    i have to agree guys,,,,it is already drafted and awaiting a signature

    and how many times has this guy bucked his party,,,,,,,,0

    i think palosi and reed are going to get what ever they want from this guy

    and we all know that they know what is best for us peasants,,,,,i am sure the all knowing ones will be speaking to us from the mountain top,,,,just to let us know we have no idea of what is best for ourselves,,,and they know just what we need

    ocharry
     
  7. retiredsgt

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    How long?

    Keep in mind, several of the Justices of the Supreme Court are just about at the point of stepping down. With just two, New, Democratic, Liberal Judges, another case like the recent Heller decision, and we shall see the last of the "Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms".
     
  8. moooose102

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    i am afraid. i really am. this batch of "politicians" are going to screw up this country so bad, it will take many, many terms and at great cost to get things back to where they are now. it may really come down to "YOU CAN HAVE MY GUN WHEN YOU PRY THE GUN OUT OF MY COLD DEAD HAND". i am afraid we all are going to have to search our souls and decide on if our guns are worth our lives. when i was without kids, it was a simple "yes" but now that i have two little ones, and no one else to take care of them, i am going to have to think long and hard about this. nothing, but nothing good is going to come from oblama taking office. i know, from the bottom of my heart, that i will never resect him as president. he has no respect for our troops, our flag, or our country. i have none for him.
     
  9. Gunsby_Blazen

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    Maybe we should try to talk to Obama, he seems like he wants us to all hold hands and be behind him anyway. I am not saying that we can convince him, but we might be able to sway him on some aspects of it. It is worth a shot, but my friend Frank, who actually knows the man very well, says he will lie to face by saying one thing and then going to someone else and saying the opposite. But what I am getting at, if people show that there is enough people behind our will, there could be a chance that it could change his mind. He wants to get in good with the conservatives.
    at the very minimum, we need a sunset clause.

    that's my thought, i don't know, am i an appeaser?
     
  10. Ben86

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    I've got a feeling it will be soon.

    That's why I'm joining the NRA today. With mostly liberals in Congress, the Senate and House the NRA is our back-up gun. We've got a tough fight ahead folks.
     
  11. MTS Cop

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    I too joined the NRA today. I'm also going to get on top of my FOP dues. My, and most of your, way of life is going to be challenged by our new super liberal majority. Time to dig in our heels and never give up.
     
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    talking to obama would be awesome, and i think, the most effective way. the only problem is...he is the president elect. how the heck do we get into direct contact with him? we'd have to go through all manner of liberal contacts and i am pretty sure they would conveniently forget to remind him we called...
     
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    Molon Labe.
     
  14. Sepia

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    I have long felt that the country will face a great divide at some point. The ideologies of the two sides are too different to co-exist under one government, and I'm afraid to say that this just may be the tipping point. I for one know what my choice would be should I be faced choosing the nation I love or the Ideologies it was founded upon. I would gladly lay down my life should it be necessary to protect the freedoms given unto us by our forefathers.

    And as to the time line, I would imagine it would take between 3 and 4 months at most to get anything done, and if there are still some decent justices in the supreme court, it would get shot down before it could take effect... hopefully.
     
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    Our only hope for not getting it passed in the 1st session after he's sworn in (shutter) is that the economy keeps tanking. The government will be so busy trying to fund the handouts he's promised to the left that they don't get to it. Don't forget the "Binden test" that could keep him busy. :evil:
     
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    Ammo restrictions will start first like lead bans, licensing, registration, and serialization. Next is micro stamping and CCW restrictions, followed by magazine, caliber, and AWB restrictions.
     
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    The Chief Executive has sweeping powers in time of crisis and emergency.
    That "test" may allow him to impose martial law - for our safety.
    You do want to be safe right?
    Just as Bush hosed up all things foreign, Osama will hose up all things domestic.
    We're ****ed people.
    What are YOU going to do about it?
    How will you fight?
    Where do you draw your red line?
    All this talk, but what concrete actions will you take when they violate OUR Constitution?
     
  18. Golden Hound

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    I would do anything to just be able to sit down with Barack Obama and TALK to him about this stuff. I honestly don't think that he is some kind of evil beast, just that he holds a lot of horribly misguided ideas, most of which are the product of sheer ignorance. I bet I could convince him to see things our way, if I could just have the chance to explain to him how it is.
     
  19. Hoplophile

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    Golden Hound: I am completely with you on that. He seems like a reasonable guy.

    Seriously, one of the best things he could do for race relations and class relations in the country is show that he's serious about RKBA.

    That, and he seems like an interesting guy to talk to. I wonder if he'd feed us the same political bull**** he does the media or whether he'd have a straight conversation with us.
     
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    i seriously think that it would be this summer at the earliest there is soo much more that people are concerned with(ie economy the war ect.)

    but either way im joing the nra when i get my next check and i think we should all do a pro gun assemby in dc
     
  21. Golden Hound

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    I cannot possibly imagine that the group of Americans who are firmly anti-gun - the real ideological-based antis, the Brady people who are hell-bent on complete elimination of all guns from private hands - are a more important political force as a voting group than the pro-gun side.

    Obama should be trying pro-actively to gain our favor. He should be courting the 2nd Amendment vote. What does he have to lose? The Brady people? Are they really more important to him voting-wise than people like US?

    He could have it all. If only he would just take his blinders off.
     
  22. tmajors

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    I say within the first 100 working hours after new congress is sworn in.
     
  23. camslam

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    Where are the usual suspects telling us that we are overreacting, crying chicken little, saying the sky is falling, telling us to relax, reminding us of ALL the other things that Barack and the Demos have to deal with first? :uhoh:

    There is no way they will do anything to infringe on the 2nd amendment. :rolleyes:

    OH WAIT, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT:

    Schumer
    Clinton
    Obama
    Durbin
    Kerry
    Kennedy
    Lautenburg
    Boxer
    Feinstein
    Mayor Bloomberg
    Mayor Fenty
    Mayor Nagin
    Blagojevich
    McCarthy
    Biden
    Mayor Daley
    The Brady Campaign
    ASHA


    AREN'T WE???
     
  24. ants

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    Probably not a ban, but worse...

    I doubt there will be a ban any time soon. It's too public, too visible, and will be fought too vigorously. Nor do I expect exhorbitant taxes on ammunition. After all, Obama needs votes for reelection in 4 years. He won't get them by pissing off 60 million American gun owners.

    Instead, exceptions will be authorized to the federal law banning tort suits against the gun industry, allowing public municipalities to choke the industry with liability claims. Imports of guns, parts, accessories and ammunition will be restricted and then eliminated to protect domestic producers (Winchesters will disappear!
    So will Springfield Armory! And Browning! And most magazines for pistols and rifles!). Then domestic manufacturers will be burdened with mountains of documentation requirements. The EPA will restrict projectiles containing lead and/or copper upon any watershed land that drains (or might drain, or historically drained, or have at any time flooded) into public lakes, rivers and streams from sea to shining sea. Background checks will become much more extensive, stepping past HIPAA protections to peer into our personal medical histories, and thus cost $100 per firearm and take 16 weeks to process. Face to face sales between private individuals will become a felony, allowing FFL transfers only, and the extensive paperwork requirements will force FFL dealers to charge $100 for each transaction. Law enforcement efforts the size of the Normandy D-Day invasion will plague alleged straw-purchase sellers. ORMD provisions for shipping ammunition without HazMat fees will disappear. The postal service will no longer allow shipments of guns between FFL dealers, leaving all shipping to private carriers who add $100 per shipment to handle the newly enacted federal paperwork requirements.

    Are you getting the picture?

    But technically our individual rights will still be intact, untouched and never challenged before the Supreme Court, written faintly on very thin paper at the National Archives, and the Second Amendment will never actually be repealed because no one dare touch the Bill of Rights. Just like the Third Amendment, a freedom which I'm sure you still enjoy every single day.
     
  25. Hoplophile

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    I guess a problem, Golden Hound, is that there aren't too many who want to try the "Polite, rational, friendly conversation" method.

    Plus, think about the amount of pull Obama has with people. If he says "Hey, guys. Guns, they're not so bad. Read a bit about them.", imagine how many people will suddenly be that much more open to the idea.
     
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