How Loud is the Sonic Crack from a Suppressed 22WMR Rifle?

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My state is allowing suppressed hunting this year. The law goes into effect sometime this spring 2015. I have a SilencerCo SS Sparrow. It is rated for 22 WMR. I see Ruger now has a threaded American Rimfire rifle in 22 WMR. I wonder if its worth it to buy this rifle, and suppress it for groundhog hunting this summer. Im sure the suppressor will reduce the muzzle blast, but will I be disappointed in the sonic crack the ammo is going to produce?
 
Im wondering if it will make the rifle able to be shot without hearing protection. Is the sonic crack louder with higher velocity ammo, as opposed to lower velocity ammo, assuming all ammo breaks the sound barrier?
 
weblance said:
Is the sonic crack louder with higher velocity ammo, as opposed to lower velocity ammo, assuming all ammo breaks the sound barrier?

The crack generated by a supersonic bullet is more a function of the diameter and length of the bullet than anything else. However, terrain has a significant effect on how we perceive the noise. If there are any reflective surfaces near the shooter (that can direct sound back towards the shooter) the sound will be significantly greater.
 
Im wondering if it will make the rifle able to be shot without hearing protection.
I would think so, especially for the occasional shots when hunting.
I'm basing that on my experience with a .223 thru a silencer - I have no problem popping off a few .223 rounds without hearing protection, but if I was going to make a range day of it, I'd probably opt for some type of hearing protection (needed or not) just to play it safe.

I also have a Sparrow SS - I actually thought about going with the 22WMR, but couldn't find any guns I liked, and am still a bit skittish about the cartridge staying around. I ended up getting a 17HMR, but boy do I like those ballistics on the 22WMR! :banghead:
 
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I had my CZ455 22 wmr barrel threaded for my sparrow. I'd say it's a good bit quieter than regular WMR, maybe about like an unsuppressed subsonic. 22lr. My rifle didn't like the CCI 30gr load with the suppressor on, but I have yet to see how it does with regular 40gr loads.
 
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The sonic crack of a bullet going down range is like a "SNAP!" and certainly hearing safe so long as the can takes the muzzle blast to hearing safe levels.
 
I use a yhm stinger on my 22wmr. The crack is pretty loud. I pretty much don't use the suppressor on it anymore, it opens my groups up to 1"-1.5" at 100yds. With out it I am below 1" groups at 100yds all day. So for me its not really worth it because its really not that loud of a boom without the suppressor.
 
Reference the sonic crack of a suppressed supersonic rifle round, it has been my experience that velocity, time of flight and terrain will all have an impact on what the shooter perceives.

Velocity applies as the faster the bullet screams away from the shooter the less time it has to act on the ear.

Time of flight applies in the same way, especially in hunting. The shorter the distance to your game the less the sonic crack will have time to act on the ear.

Terrain will apply with respect to the perception of the sound of the sonic crack in that, On a square range with berms backstop and roof the sound of the crack will be reflected back at the shooter and it will sound louder than it will in the field while hunting.

In a canyon it will sound louder than in a wooded area.

Although video is an extremely poor media to try and quantify how loud a sound is (microphones in most cameras try and compensate for lows and highs reference noise) here are a couple of videos I've made of suppressed shots in the field.

These videos are of shots taken on game so if you're not interested in seeing harm come to animals, don't watch:

This is my suppressed 17 Hornet using factory loaded Hornady 20 grain ammo and the suppressor being used is a Gemtech Titanium Trek 223 suppressor. Distance to the targets is 200 and 225 yards respectively:

http://youtu.be/RME1NmPmEMo

The next one is my 220 Swift, 50 grain Zmax loaded by me, velocity is 3750 fps distance was about 150 yards. the rifle is suppressed using an AAC M42K 5.56 can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvOKqBnOLZU

In both instance's, to me (the shooter) the sound of the bullet hitting the animal seemed louder than the crack of the bullet.
 
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Velocity applies as the faster the bullet screams away from the shooter the less time it has to act on the ear.

The bullet has broken the sound barrier at the muzzle so how exactly does velocity come into play?
 
The bullet has broken the sound barrier at the muzzle so how exactly does velocity come into play?

Not only does the bullet break the sound barrier at the muzzle (in most center fire rifle cartridges) the projectile will continue to be supersonic for a considerable portion of its flight (thus continue to crack).

With respect to the sound of the sonic crack (from the shooters perspective) the faster the bullet moves away from the shooter, the less tiime it has to act on his ear.

It has been my experience that my suppressed 17 HMR is perceived (to my ear) to be way more quiet than a suppressed 22 long rifle round that breaks the speed of sound.

Same goes for my suppressed 204 River as compared to my suppressed 223.
 
With respect to the sound of the sonic crack (from the shooters perspective) the faster the bullet moves away from the shooter, the less tiime it has to act on his ear.

This is incorrect. The crack that is heard is a single event for any point in a plane perpendicular to the direction of travel of the object moving at or greater than the speed of sound.
 
This is incorrect. The crack that is heard is a single event for any point in a plane perpendicular to the direction of travel of the object moving at or greater than the speed of sound

Who said anything about "perpendicular"?

My comments are from the shooters perspective.

Shooters behind the event, not*perpindicular.
 
Who said anything about "perpendicular"?

My comments are from the shooters perspective.

Shooters behind the event, not*perpindicular.

There is a single sonic crack for the shooter to hear, not a continuous crack, so the idea that the noise is reduced by an increase in velocity is incorrect. Noise from the shooter's perspective is much more a function of terrain as I stated in my first post and as you parroted in your first post.
 
There is a single sonic crack for the shooter to hear, not a continuous crack, so the idea that the noise is reduced by an increase in velocity is incorrect.

I concede to your point and the science that backs it up.
 
Really? After 50+ years of continuous production, you're worried 22WMR isn't going to catch on?

My bad - I was thinking 17WSM - I was interested in it until I found there was little to nothing AFA rifle choices, and Savage seems to have really hurt the growth of the cartridge with the introduction of the B-Mag.

I ended up going with 17HMR, but I really like the 17WSM ballistics.

Gotta try to keep all those acronyms straight...
 
I also have a Sparrow SS - I actually thought about going with the 22WMR, but couldn't find any guns I liked, and am still a bit skittish about the cartridge staying around. I ended up getting a 17HMR, but boy do I like those ballistics on the 22WMR!
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The .22wmr has been around a long time, so why exactly would you think it is going anywhere anytime soon??
 
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