How Many Times?

[.45Coltguy]

Well, there is common sense and then there simply isn't. With firearms, please do use common sense.

 

[NorTexOT]

My friend has made it pretty clear they don't see an issue. I've decided that at least on social media I'm not getting involved. If I see them doing unsafe act in my presence I will say something.

Anti2A much?

 

[scaatylobo]

A friend just posted a gun selfie on social media. long story short they had a gun sitting on the floor pointed at their leg in the photo.

I've mentioned that it's unsafe behavior at least twice and been told I worry too much.

My question isn't so much whether or not you think what I'm describing is unsafe behavior. For the purposes of this discussion let's assume it is. But even if this particular thing isn't unsafe behavior

How many times would you point out unsafe behavior to a friend before you dropped it

There are no circumstances under which I would allow them to so much as touch a firearm in my presence.

How many times do I mention the unsafe behavior and explain why it's unsafe before I give up?

Stubborn old man here.

After I point it out , and they ignore my observation.

I decide if it could EVER be a threat to me.

If yes,then I inform that 'close friend' that we are no longer friends.

If no,then I mind my own business and save my LOUD " I told you so" for the future.

 

[45/30-06OKIE]

I have no idea what this even means

I think that was the point lol. It's "hood" speak.

 

[lightman]

How many times do I mention the unsafe behavior and explain why it's unsafe before I give up?

I won't give up. I'm hardheaded that way! I would tell them one time politely and explain safe gun handling to them. If there is a 2nd time it won't be so polite. If it happens a 3rd time we're done. I quit hunting with my late FIL for this very reason.

 

[The Night Rider]

Anti2A much?

Okay, let's go down the rabbit hole. Why. pray tell do you think I'm anti Second Amendment?

 

[The Night Rider]

I'm also going to say this, I realize that the muzzle of the gun is always pointing somewhere.

However, in a situation like that where there was no good reason to have the muzzle that gun pointing at their leg I would call it a safety violation. I don't care if nobody's touching the gun. I don't care if the safety is on. I don't care if the gun is unloaded. Believe it or not I thought twice before I took the picture I took because I think that even if it's nominal a safety violation like that that's so easily avoided should be.

 

[drobs]

Ever been in a gun shop where all the handguns in the glass case point at you?

 

[The Night Rider]

Ever been in a gun shop where all the handguns in the glass case point at you?

No.

 

[drobs]

No.

Would you correct the gun shop owner Boo?

 

[teerex.otw]

I'm also going to say this, I realize that the muzzle of the gun is always pointing somewhere.

However, in a situation like that where there was no good reason to have the muzzle that gun pointing at their leg I would call it a safety violation. I don't care if nobody's touching the gun. I don't care if the safety is on. I don't care if the gun is unloaded. Believe it or not I thought twice before I took the picture I took because I think that even if it's nominal a safety violation like that that's so easily avoided should be.

I believe it, because I too am very “muzzle conscious”.
You committed no safety violations in taking that photo because it is visually verifiable that that pistol was in a safe condition with a 0.00% chance of unintentional discharge…same as doing routine maintenance, or handing it to someone.
If your friend removed the mag. and locked the slide back, would you have had this level of concern ?
There are only a certain set of circumstances where a gun is dangerous, if you can verify that these conditions have not been met, THEN (only then !) is it an inanimate object.
The whole “not knowing for sure” element is what gives me the “heebies”.
Just my 2-cents (and in this economy, had to borrow one of those).

I'm also going to say this, I realize that the muzzle of the gun is always pointing somewhere.

However, in a situation like that where there was no good reason to have the muzzle that gun pointing at their leg I would call it a safety violation. I don't care if nobody's touching the gun. I don't care if the safety is on. I don't care if the gun is unloaded. Believe it or not I thought twice before I took the picture I took because I think that even if it's nominal a safety violation like that that's so easily avoided should be

 

[PWC]

Smoke a joint then read it again... it will make perfect sense!

Try Eubonics

 

[film495]

I'd be equally concerned with someone posting gun pics on social media as I would be about something in the pic being unsafe.

 

[LimaCharlie]

When I walk into the LGS, there are about a hundred handguns in the cases pointing at me. It is not dangerous until someone is holding the gun. Guns don't go off by themselves.

 

[epags]

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Okay I staged a copy of the photo. First of all I'm wearing gym shorts just like I normally do when I'm at home. As you can see the slide is locked to the rear on my handgun and there is a chamber flag in the chamber.

In the photo I'm copying the gun was in battery and I can only assume that there was a round in the chamber (because you should always assume there's a round in the chamber) and it was pointed at my friend's leg.

Just in general, would you say something? Would you call that an unsafe act?

For me I've said it before I don't point the muzzle of the gun at anything I don't want to shoot. And yes I am aware that I broke the rule by taking this picture but again please note the safety precautions

Please do not go into any gun store since their hand guns almost always are pointing toward the front of the case (at you) or to the rear (at the dealer)

 

[epags]

When I walk into the LGS, there are about a hundred handguns in the cases pointing at me. It is not dangerous until someone is holding the gun. Guns don't go off by themselves.

Doggone it, you beat me to it by a couple of minutes.

@drobs: Sorry, I missed your post altogether.

 

[epags]

.......................How many times would you point out unsafe behavior to a friend before you dropped it................How many times do I mention the unsafe behavior and explain why it's unsafe before I give up?

Let me get back to your question (above). I can only remember one person who would fail to heed safety advice. All others immediately corrected their behavior (at least in my presence).
Back to the one. He was a retired undercover police officer who belonged to our shooting club. He continually would set a target at 25 feet beyond the firing line and would walk toward it while shooting (apparently as he had been trained) (let's not get into if that is a good scenerio).
He would insist, since 'he knew we were good shots', he was not in danger.
We gave up trying to convince him that it was unsafe behavior and we would simpley stop shooting until he finished and returned to the firing line.
He had passed (but not due unsafe shooting)

 

[.38 Special]

I wouldn't warn him even once, unless I thought it was something he was unaware of. If I know he is aware of it, I'm just going to assume he has made his own decision, and I'm not going to patronize him or insult him by telling him he shouldn't do it.

By the same token, I'm pretty unlikely to make or remain friends with anyone who would post social media selfies with guns pointed at themselves. So I guess the short version is that I don't have friends who need me to point out their shortcomings, and I won't be friends with people who need their shortcomings pointed out.

 

[Dudedog]

How many times do I mention the unsafe behavior and explain why it's unsafe before I give up?

I've mentioned that it's unsafe behavior at least twice and been told I worry too much.

Twice seems like enough to me.
You tried, he didn't want to listen so it is what it is.

 

[wayneinFL]

I had a friend I used to hunt with who kept his shotgun over his shoulder. The more tired he got, the more horizontal it got. I told him a few times, and eventually walked next to him or in front of him.

I don't know anyone posting gun selfies, but I'm not on Twitter or Facebook.

 

[kwb377]

Never give up my friend. When they finally get themselves or someone hurt, you can at least look back and say “I told you x amount of times”

So, what you're saying is that no matter how many times you tell someone, in the end it's not going to matter anyway because it's going to happen regardless.

 

[Chief TC]

If it is for their safety I tell them once. If it is for my safety or others then I say something every incident.

 

[Mstafford88]

So, what you're saying is that no matter how many times you tell someone, in the end it's not going to matter anyway because it's going to happen regardless.

In not so many words lol. But at least you tried. Stupid is as stupid does

 

[The Night Rider]

Please do not go into any gun store since their hand guns almost always are pointing toward the front of the case (at you) or to the rear (at the dealer)

I don't think I've been in a gun store in a couple of years.

 

[JR24]

I wouldn't warn him even once, unless I thought it was something he was unaware of. If I know he is aware of it, I'm just going to assume he has made his own decision, and I'm not going to patronize him or insult him by telling him he shouldn't do it.

By the same token, I'm pretty unlikely to make or remain friends with anyone who would post social media selfies with guns pointed at themselves. So I guess the short version is that I don't have friends who need me to point out their shortcomings, and I won't be friends with people who need their shortcomings pointed out.

Yeah, pretty much the same. I do interact with new shooters some so I would, nicely, offer corrective advice if it’s something they might not realize they are doing but after that I’d just make sure to not be around them and guns.

But as you say, most of my regular friends who shoot are safe and responsible. Also we are all too old to be posting selfies on social media