How much ammo do you carry
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scbair
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When armed with my M642, I pack 2 speed strips in a small pocket pouch (may need more than 5 rounds);
When packing my BHP, an extra mag in a belt pouch (in case the one in the mag well malfunctions . . .).
Seriously, I was taught at an early age (military Dad & older brother) to reload any firearm to capacity immediatley upon being offered an opportunity. Regardless of whether the arm is a double-barreled shotgun, a 5-6 round revolver, a 15-round pistol or a 40-round rifle; recharge when you have a chance! Otherwise, you're packing a disposable weapon.
When packing my BHP, an extra mag in a belt pouch (in case the one in the mag well malfunctions . . .).
Seriously, I was taught at an early age (military Dad & older brother) to reload any firearm to capacity immediatley upon being offered an opportunity. Regardless of whether the arm is a double-barreled shotgun, a 5-6 round revolver, a 15-round pistol or a 40-round rifle; recharge when you have a chance! Otherwise, you're packing a disposable weapon.
rantingredneck
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Depends on what I'm carrying. If my mousegun (NAA Guardian .32NAA) then most definitely one extra mag. If my wheelgun (Taurus 817 38SPL +P) then one full cylinder's worth of extras (need some speedloaders).
If I'm carrying my P345 or P90 I usually (90% of the time or so) have a spare mag in my left front pocket. Honestly though it sometimes gets left in the truck.
If I'm carrying my P89 then I usually just leave the extra mag in the truck. Honestly though, the P89 doesn't get as much carry time these days.
If I'm carrying my P345 or P90 I usually (90% of the time or so) have a spare mag in my left front pocket. Honestly though it sometimes gets left in the truck.
If I'm carrying my P89 then I usually just leave the extra mag in the truck. Honestly though, the P89 doesn't get as much carry time these days.
indie
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when i get my ccw, i will probably will not carry a reload.
alex_trebek
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Personally I carry a 1911 Two 7 round mags, 1 chambered. Total of 15 rounds.
My friend (who isnt a THR member) carries two glock 23's and 80 rounds. Two spare 13 round mags for each, each glock with one chambered. He carries by far more than anyone i have known.
My friend (who isnt a THR member) carries two glock 23's and 80 rounds. Two spare 13 round mags for each, each glock with one chambered. He carries by far more than anyone i have known.
While this is a good topic, it has been done many times.
For my part, it depends on where I am carrying, and what I'm carrying. However, in either case, I do as I was taught to do by my Tactical Shooting and Advanced Tactical instructors: carry the most that one can, and always have a back-up.
For my part, it depends on where I am carrying, and what I'm carrying. However, in either case, I do as I was taught to do by my Tactical Shooting and Advanced Tactical instructors: carry the most that one can, and always have a back-up.
Smokewagon45
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10+1 in the firearm and 1 extra mag in the console of the pickup.
Mannlicher
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When using one of my revolvers in a CCW role, I carry at least two reloads .
With an autoloader, depending on magazine capacity, at least one extra magazine.
Best to have it, and not need it................
With an autoloader, depending on magazine capacity, at least one extra magazine.
Best to have it, and not need it................
This thread might shed some light:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=253771&highlight=carry+extra
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=253771&highlight=carry+extra
Scorpiusdeus
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I magazine in the weapon and four or five on my person. Sig P226ST .40 S&W
DirksterG30
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CZ P-01 - 14+1 in the gun, spare 14rd magazube
Keltec P3AT - 6+1 in the gun, 2 spare 6rd magazines
Kahr MK9 - 6+1 in the gun, 2 spare magazines (1x6rd & 1x7rd)
I carry the spare(s) not because I fear I'll be in a firefight, but because the magazine can often be the autoloaders weak link.
Keltec P3AT - 6+1 in the gun, 2 spare 6rd magazines
Kahr MK9 - 6+1 in the gun, 2 spare magazines (1x6rd & 1x7rd)
I carry the spare(s) not because I fear I'll be in a firefight, but because the magazine can often be the autoloaders weak link.
10 Ring Tao
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I have yet to read where a civilian CCW'er has needed more than 5 shots, and indeed, the vast majority of self defense shootings involve about 3 seconds with 3 shots fired.
If I need a reload, and have time to reload, I'll be getting the hell out of there.
I've done my homework, and I'm comfortable with where I've chosen to be as far as equipment. Just having the gun and being willing to display and then shoot it takes care of 99.9% of possible threats.
Without a batman belt, there is a point of diminishing returns where you have so much junk in your pockets and around your waist it negatively affects movement and comfort. If I didn't carry a cellphone, I'd probably throw a mag in that pocket, but I'm far more likely to need a cellphone than a reload.
I have a routine I can live with. An important part of that routine is that its easy enough that I'll do it every day, without fail. Too much burden, and its real easy to say, 'Screw it, I don't feel like lugging around a midget in my pockets today'.
That said, I've made an exception 3 times. Each involved going to a place I'd normally avoid, at a time of day I'd also normally avoid.
If I need a reload, and have time to reload, I'll be getting the hell out of there.
I've done my homework, and I'm comfortable with where I've chosen to be as far as equipment. Just having the gun and being willing to display and then shoot it takes care of 99.9% of possible threats.
Without a batman belt, there is a point of diminishing returns where you have so much junk in your pockets and around your waist it negatively affects movement and comfort. If I didn't carry a cellphone, I'd probably throw a mag in that pocket, but I'm far more likely to need a cellphone than a reload.
I have a routine I can live with. An important part of that routine is that its easy enough that I'll do it every day, without fail. Too much burden, and its real easy to say, 'Screw it, I don't feel like lugging around a midget in my pockets today'.
That said, I've made an exception 3 times. Each involved going to a place I'd normally avoid, at a time of day I'd also normally avoid.
10 Ring Tao:
I see the point about too much equipment, and agree about the very fast end to almost all gun fights. The Advanced Tactical instructor told us one evening about the fact that he has had 3 autoloaders break on duty, and 3 revolvers break on duty. He also spoke of failed mags being the typical weak link. What he suggested for us, if the autoload pistol fails, drop the mag, reload with a fresh mag and rack the slide all while still on the move. If one does not have a spare, that becomes impossible. He also told us of watching Glock, Colt, and other mags dropping the bottom right out, and bullets rolling all over the floor.
For my part, I prefer say a G19C, and 2 spare mags. Then, as a back-up, a P3AT with 1 spare mag. So, I really don't carry too much if you consider the take of the instructor of drop the mag, because the mag will likely be the system's weak point.
In closing, you made one excellent point which bares reinforcing...habit, or rountine. Carry what you will, but have life down to a well-rehersed routine...conditioned response! No one has time to fumble.
Good to hear from you!
Doc2005
I see the point about too much equipment, and agree about the very fast end to almost all gun fights. The Advanced Tactical instructor told us one evening about the fact that he has had 3 autoloaders break on duty, and 3 revolvers break on duty. He also spoke of failed mags being the typical weak link. What he suggested for us, if the autoload pistol fails, drop the mag, reload with a fresh mag and rack the slide all while still on the move. If one does not have a spare, that becomes impossible. He also told us of watching Glock, Colt, and other mags dropping the bottom right out, and bullets rolling all over the floor.
For my part, I prefer say a G19C, and 2 spare mags. Then, as a back-up, a P3AT with 1 spare mag. So, I really don't carry too much if you consider the take of the instructor of drop the mag, because the mag will likely be the system's weak point.
In closing, you made one excellent point which bares reinforcing...habit, or rountine. Carry what you will, but have life down to a well-rehersed routine...conditioned response! No one has time to fumble.
Good to hear from you!
Doc2005
mpmarty
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I have never had a magazine "fail" by itself. I keep them clean and if one gets dropped or otherwise becomes suspect I verify that it is still 100% reliable or I don't use it. Once a known good magazine is in the weapon, a fresh round in the chamber, I feel no need for another magazine to reload. 10+1 of my solid copper barnes 45acp flying ashtrays is plenty. Or in the winter 15+1 of 200gr 10mm Hornady XTPs.
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"I magazine in the weapon and four or five on my person. Sig P226ST .40 S&W"
Wow! Where do you live, along the Pakistan / Afghanistan border? Five rounds in my SP101 .357 is plenty. I don't plan on encountering any insurgents or rollin' up in the hood with my homies. Besides when the SHFT, KISS.
"I magazine in the weapon and four or five on my person. Sig P226ST .40 S&W"
Wow! Where do you live, along the Pakistan / Afghanistan border? Five rounds in my SP101 .357 is plenty. I don't plan on encountering any insurgents or rollin' up in the hood with my homies. Besides when the SHFT, KISS.
geekWithA.45
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When Sig P245ing, 6+1, min: 1x8, usually 2x8
When J-framing, 5, 2 x5 safariland speedloaders
When TPHing (bug), 6+1, 2x6
When J-framing, 5, 2 x5 safariland speedloaders
When TPHing (bug), 6+1, 2x6
pharmer
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6906, 11+1. I guess I could carry a 5906 15 rd reload, but after 12 shots I'd probably be dead as something waaay bigger than me has happened. Joe
10 Ring Tao
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Right, same here. Any mag I carry has been very well tested and inspected. I'm not sure I understand how a broken in and tested, but essentially factory new mag could spontaneously fail anyway. If it works when I test it, and nothing changes after, whats going to fail or break?
shadowalker
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I've seen a nearly new factory glock magazine split at a firearm training class, less than 10 rounds fired at the class, had to be pried from the bottom of the firearm. You don't necessarily know how close it is to failure just because it has always worked and nothing appears to be wrong.
I carry 2 extra 12 or 13 round magazines, depending on magazine capacity. I'll bring a couple extra boxes of JHP with me on road trips.
I carry extra magazines for reliability of both magazine and ammunition and if necessary non emergency reloads and because 40 rounds makes me feel better than 13
.MrPeter
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One of the criterion I use for selecting a carry piece is the mag capacity for exactly that reason. I don't carry a mag on me unless the gun I have on me is less than 10, in which case I don't carry it at all (save my kit gun, for which I have speedloaders of .357 JSP).
I do keep a full mag of .45ACP for my XD in my car. I figure I'll be trying to get away, and my car will likely be the escape vehicle, should I need it, so leaving a mag there seems logical to me.
So generally I carry 13+1 45ACP or 12+1 40S&W in a CZ.
I do keep a full mag of .45ACP for my XD in my car. I figure I'll be trying to get away, and my car will likely be the escape vehicle, should I need it, so leaving a mag there seems logical to me.
So generally I carry 13+1 45ACP or 12+1 40S&W in a CZ.
DoubleTapDrew
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I carry one round in the chamber and that's it. No magazine to fail!
No, occasionally I'll drop a spare mag into my pocket but I need to get a mag carrier for the belt and make a habbit of it because although I've never had a mag (one that I carry, anyway) fail Mr. Murphy may show up. Not to mention a horde of zombie ninja pirates.
No, occasionally I'll drop a spare mag into my pocket but I need to get a mag carrier for the belt and make a habbit of it because although I've never had a mag (one that I carry, anyway) fail Mr. Murphy may show up. Not to mention a horde of zombie ninja pirates.
1911 guy
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mljdeckard is a genius.
He said:
The main reason to carry a reload is to clear a malfunction
Bingo! Statistically, you won't need your handgun. Statistically, most gunfights are over in less than six rounds. However, if you're needing a handgun, the statistics apperently aren't working for you that day.
I carry a pistol that has jammed (actually FTF) twice in tens of thousands of rounds, but if I'm having a really bad day, I'd better be ready to clear that third malf.
He said:
The main reason to carry a reload is to clear a malfunction
Bingo! Statistically, you won't need your handgun. Statistically, most gunfights are over in less than six rounds. However, if you're needing a handgun, the statistics apperently aren't working for you that day.
I carry a pistol that has jammed (actually FTF) twice in tens of thousands of rounds, but if I'm having a really bad day, I'd better be ready to clear that third malf.
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