George P
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This bidder: talumbau80 kept raising his own bid; something smells fishy.
How much is a used shotgun worth?
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Riomouse911
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Or they could be shill bidders in concert with the sellers. As much as I’d hate to see stuff like that, I’ve seen it happen before.... It’s especially suspicious if the item is relisted quickly after the auctions close.
Stay safe.
Riomouse911
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Ya, been a GB member for two weeks, tons of red flags.
The bidder may not understand that you can set a high bid amount and it’ll automatically bid for you...who knows.
The dude he was bidding against bid roughly $2,200 on an M1A scout squad and didn’t pay for it.
Those bidders shouldn’t even be allowed to bid on anything else. All they do is drive up the price for a genuine bidder who wants to buy.
If you think sellers are wonky now, I’ll bet they’ll be extra suspicious until this insanity subsides.
Stay safe.
Rex in OTZ
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Used shotguns?
Like in Lock, Stock and two smoking barrels they can be in the thousands.
Or a old simple utility shotgun?
Like in Lock, Stock and two smoking barrels they can be in the thousands.
Or a old simple utility shotgun?
kBob
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Local Gunshop about five miles away had used 870 28 inch 12 gauge with screw in choke for $85 three weeks ago. Thanks for reminding me I may want a spare barrel for that Mossberg I recently got, going the other way from long to short.
With a used barrel you get to use the same shot gun for upland game, clay pidgeon busting and home defence.
-kBob
With a used barrel you get to use the same shot gun for upland game, clay pidgeon busting and home defence.
-kBob
That doesn't indicate anything fishy - it's just how GB works. In a case like that, the bidder is, in effect, raising his own bid, but it's not what it might seem -- not a case of him running the bid up.
When you are winning an auction and you go back and increase your maximum bid it looks like you're bidding against yourself, but you're not. You're just increasing what you're willing to pay if necessary.
Say you first think you'd give $1200 for the gun and bid $1200 accordingly. Then you think about it some more and decide you'd give $1500 for it if necessary, when you go back and increase your bid to $1500 it shows up a multiple bids and looks like you're raising your own bid and thereby increasing the price of the item, but you're not. It takes another bidder to increase the actual price of the item.
I did this just this AM on a scope. I first bid $207 which put me as the high bidder at $195. I thought about it some more and then went back and increased my maximum bid to $217. When I upped my maximum bid it reset the 15 minute timer but didn't change my $195 bid that was standing as the high bidder at the time. The bid history showed two bids by me even though nobody else bid between my two bids. If someone else had bid $210, it would have made the bid history look like I'd raised my own bid, but I really wouldn't have. I'd just increased the maximum amount I was willing to pay.
Bottom line, there's no evidence of fishy activity in the bid history for that auction. Just desperate buyers.
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That's not exactly what was happening. He was in a sense raising his bid, but not in the sense that I believe you are thinking (if I understand correctly).
talumbau80 was trying to overcome bluebluff's earlier bid that bluebluff had put in. Every time talumbau80 raised his bid, it just bumped bluebluff's bid up above the most recent bid that talumbau80 had just submitted, and bluebluff continued to be the winning bidder. bluebluff's last bid of $1500 was hundreds of dollars higher than anyone else had bid at the time, and talumbau80 kept trying to snipe it by raising the bid $50 to $100 at a time. Looks like he submitted 8 bids to overcome bluebluff's $1500 bid, and finally had to submit a $1525 bid to win it. From the time stamps, it looks like he was just sitting there and punching in bid after bid as soon as he saw that the prior bid didn't put him in the lead. LOL
https://www.gunbroker.com/Item/878267346/BidHistory
This is how the penny auctions sometimes get crazy. Two or more people get invested in winning the auction and they go where no man has gone before.
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WestKentucky
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Bid history and upping ones bid... I did that a few days ago for a barrel. I didn’t win it, at about 30 seconds left it lit up like a Christmas tree in July near the fireworks pit. Went literally from a no bid no reserve auction to $100 in seconds. I upped my bid a few times thinking about how much I wanted it. I wanted it pretty bad, but nowhere near the $100 it sold for.
The same night I also stumbled across another Colt barrel and bid. I increased a couple times trying to find the bottom end of the reserve on that auction. I quit looking before I found the reserve.
The same night I also stumbled across another Colt barrel and bid. I increased a couple times trying to find the bottom end of the reserve on that auction. I quit looking before I found the reserve.
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Mastrogiacomo
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Well, as it turns out, I mentioned to my parents that I was down sizing my collection and my father sat down to speak with me, and specifically asked about the shotgun. He said that he would "buy it" from me, which makes no sense. It is a comfortable gun to handle so I'll probably take lessons to get good with it and hold on to it after all. It doesn't make a lot of sense to get rid of something, which as our daily news demonstrates over and over, serves a valuable purpose.
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