How much is too much?

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Man... but its so easy to go through 300 rounds! I have 3 magazines, 10 rounds each. I load them up and before I know it, that's 30 rounds that I've gone through. Do this 10 times and that's it! 300 rounds. :D

Edit: sorry I kind of went off topic. I never really experience fatigue. I only shoot poly semi autos in 9mm so that may be why.
 
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Once you stop focusing on improving some specific element, you're probably done for the day. Shooting without trying to improve something is just entertainment / waisting money.

Of course, if you're practicing bad habits *any* shooting is taking you in the wrong direction.

As far as pain goes, pain as a signal of impending injury should signal you to stop immediately, while pain thats just muscle fatigue or soreness can usually be ignored.

For another pain example, my j-frame often breaks the skin on my thumb, so I try to stop practicing before that happens so that I may practice again soon, and not wait even longer while my thumb heals. In situations like that you have to slowly build up a tolerance by making really small increases over a long time (skin will thicken, tendons will lengthen, etc)

Theres nothing wrong with using ice, advil, nutrient rich foods, etc to speed up your recuperation.

Practicing 1-3 times a week sounds pretty good, but you'll advance even faster if you can find 15 minute a day to dry-fire.
 
Spotting scopes aren't bad at all. In bullseye, service rifle, benchrest- aw heck, a lot of sports- you'll see the majority of the folks on the line have a scope. for the run and gun crowd- it gets really cumbersome to haul your scope all around the range with ya.:scrutiny: (just kiddin)

Nice thing about a scope, it it lets you slow down, flex your hand a bit, take a breather, and study your grouping/shot placement before you start your next round. You can pick up decent 20x-50x scopes for $100 or so. If it comes with a tri-pod, it will probably be a worthless little table-top thing. These things are kinda pricey, but they are durable and can take a lot of banging and clanging and everything that would kill an average camera tripod: http://www.champchoice.com/cat-Scope_Stands-604.aspx (slow load)

You ought to be getting quite a bit of gear together by now. A handy thing I picked up is a Samsonite laptop/overnight luggage thing. It has a pull-up handle and wheels. It's got tons of room for all of my bullseye stuff (pistols, ammo, stapler, clipboard, notes, tools, cleaning kit, oil), and I keep my spotting scope/stand in a backpack strapped to the top and to the pull-up handle. Works great, keeps the stuff together and ready to roll, and saves a fair degree of wear and tear on my back and arms. It gets everything out to the truck, to the range, and back in one convenient trip.
 
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This is excellent advice. I'll put together a checklist for the next range visit. And the Kahr will be in my hands on Thursday and shot a few hours after field stripping, cleaning and lubing at the shop. Do Kahrs like oil as much as my Sigs do? Thanks for the info on the scope 10-96. I've been watching other people using them. I'm a geek. It appeals to me. I got a range bag a few weeks ago. I could fill the whole thing with holsters I don't use. I fill the range bag with the gear, ammo and guns at this point. I'll shop around for the scope. I'll need a sling or something for it.
 
Shooting a lot in pain is a good way to develop a lot of bad habits and then put them into muscle memory so you have them forever.
 
When I'm shooting one of my subcompacts and my carpel tunnel starts to make my right pinkie go numb, then it's time to switch to left hand only for 50-100 rounds. After that, I pack it in and go home.

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That's not carpal tunnel. The median nerve (the one affected by carpal tunnel) does not innervate the 5th finger. Fifth finger is innervated by the ulnar nerve, carpal tunnel does not affect that nerve.
 
150 rounds is where I lose my focus, typically.

That is, unless the recoil gets to me first. 9mm and .38 don't, but .357 does!
 
Got to know "when"

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To the OP..

At first, after the first 50 - 100 rounds, things (muscle memory) start going down hill as what you're feeling are all the new motor muscles coming on-line that you've never used before.

Think: stance/back, then head, arms/shoulders, grip-hands - wrists/fingers

All these tiny and, some, larger, motor muscles are being used and the_balance of all of them starts to fade, to fail, at some higher round count and on - per session.

I'd say - look at (first 50 - 100 rounds i.e accuracy and close (16ft - 18ft) and what you feel a month from now if you're going 1-3 times a month and your gun/s should start to feel lighter (even when loaded) easier to point to aim and your overall shooting should be improving (now at 20ft - 25ft) etc., along with staying power - i.e more good rounds as compared to however many guns and rounds you are shooting per week/visits - as of your/this post.

As mentioned, the only bad thing about shooting a lot of rounds, and 3 different guns, is the second and last gun you pick up to shoot are not gonna shoot as good, or long, as, say, if you started shooting with the last gun first.

Seems, of late, I take 3 guns: Sig P229n/r 40, Beretta Px4 40, and one of my Sig's 228/nr 9mm (but rare, low round count) or my main HD/SD 229R CT 9mm or SA EMP SAO 1911 9mm

Each gun goes thru, max, 50 rounds and sometimes, many times, I come home with 25 rounds left of 40cal and 20 rounds of 9mm just because the "rush phase" has been gone for a long time, IIRC, after the first year and now into my 4th yr - it's all about "quality time" and not rushing, rather, what I call "staying current" with my main guns of HD/SD, and type shooting I think will be needed, being aimed shots, point and aim shots w/double taps, and always a mag's worth of DA pulls with any of my DA/SA guns and 5 - 6 rounds with one hand only.

It's, as mentioned, too many rounds (early on) just makes for possible bad habits to form and the shotgun pattern effect shows it vs look carefully at your first 50 rounds, then the next 50 rounds (with another gun), etc. Not to mention why your hands are talking so much i.e hurting long after the session/s.

You should see your best shots in that first 50 - 100 rounds.. After that - until your motor muscle skills come on-line, permanently, with min once a week real time at the range and, as I said, the very same guns will feel much lighter, including trigger pulls as the trigger finger even gets stronger and, at the same time, the gun/s start to break in more and more, spring/strenght/felt-wise becomes less/lighter/easier/smoother the more you shoot them or practice (safe) dry-firing at home.

Try and learn to "limit" yourself vs the urge to shoot it all, in that, if you come with 400 rounds, try and only shoot 200 of it, for example, and work yourself down until you find what works (round count wise) with any of the 2 or 3 guns you take each time.

When it's all there, by not wasting ammo, and finding the_zone of quality time that is the positive-effect one wants, to walk away, knowing that one "is current" with whatever gun or guns one has for HD/SD needs..

Bottom line - In a Nutshell: when "frustration" enters, first starts, while at the range shooting or one has/feels when leaving, accept/learn when it "first starts" to set-in (being felt).. STOP, load-up, (unload) and "head home" and make mental note of round count.

"Less is more" (in staying current) not more is better - without need to undue the "shoot it all, high round counts" ending in frustration and bad habits - i.e the shotgun pattern effect vs what your see around you with the more seasoned shooters targets shooting far less ammo, for the very most part.

Most important:

Knowing that IF the day ever comes for a real HD/SD need and use of any gun you are current with will be, only, the first mags cold shots (otherwise, "a very low, cold, round count usage) and it's done/over.

OMMV,


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Ps.. outstanding inner discussion on lubrication and that link provided along with a great saying: "If it slides - grease - If it rolls - oil "
 
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