How Much Powder For Walker

[Fourbits]

I just purchaced a Uberti Colt Walker. I was surprised to see the maximum loading of 30 (volume measure). This seems pretty mild for a gun that will equal a 357 magnum. What are people really using? Is this a reasonable maximum for this gun?

Thanks in advance. Fourbits

 

[Voodoochile]

A Walker revolver can hold up to 60gr. FFFG with a .454 or .457 ball but I'm certain that most do not use that heavy of a charge normally.

My Uberti 3rd model Dragoon likes a 40gr. FFFG & a .457 ball or 35gr. FFFG & a .454 230gr. conical, so I would think a 30gr. FFFG charge would be a good starting point for your revolver.

 

[Afy]

As much as you can get in...

That is what I do

 

[mykeal]

Most people have found that 40 gr fffg by volume is their most accurate Walker load. I have two, a Uberti and an Armi San Marco; the Uberti likes 45 gr, the ASM likes either 45 or 50. I have shot both with 60 gr loads and they were surprisingly accurate even with that heavier load, although they are better with the lower loads.

 

[AdmiralB]

I use Lee plastic powder dippers, and going by their numbers, about 55 grains are all I can fit in mine and still get the ball seated flush.

 

[Pulp]

40 grains of Goex FFFg will give you 950 to 1000fps with a round ball. If you used a 30 grain load you'd have to add some filler to take up some of the space. 40 is as little as I can put in without using filler.

 

[Fourbits]

Thanks

Thanks for the help. Interestingly I went to the Uberti WEB site and found:

Left: The large cylinder capacity of the Walker allows it to hold up to 60 grains of black powder and provides easy access to the percussion caps.

 

[Hellgate]

Here's my load for my pair of Walker 44/44s: over ball grease du jour, .454 soft lead ball, felt lube wad, 44grs or FFg Goex, #10 Remington cap.
I came to this load "the hard way". I figured to make a big blast at a CAS match and was shooting 50grs FFFg with the above other components. By the end of the 6 stage match I was getting all kinds of big blast & smoke and just loving it. However what I was seeing was the cylinder gap widening up and letting flame escape upwards & outwards due to crushing of the wedges. Thank God it wasn't the cylinder pin cutout that was stretching. Well, two replacement wedges later ($9ea+S&H) and my guns were snug as new but I realized that noise is not power. So, don't be so tempted to load the guns to their maximum potential or you may end up with a stretched cylinder pin which is a more expensive fix. I know of one fellow who sent the barrel assembly down range when he stoked his Walker with full charges of 777. Don't do it (use 777 in a Walker). You will also find the FFg doesn't cause as sharp of a recoil (not an issue with the heavy gun for comfort) so the rammer stays in place. The fffg drops the rammer more often but there is an easy fix for that. Email me for info.

 

[Elbert P . Suggins]

Last spring as you might recall on the Walker thread I had just bought a Uberti Walker and loaded it with 2 30 grain Pyrodex pellets. Don't do that either! Evidentley the wedge was harder than the frame because the frame was pushed in wrinkles behind the wedge which caused damage that wasn't repairable.

 

[Smokin_Gun]

Evidentley the wedge was harder than the frame because the frame was pushed in wrinkles behind the wedge which caused damage that wasn't repairable

Have you still got the Walker that is not repairable?
Give me your price I'll take it off your hands.

SG

 

[Fourbits]

Again Thanks. I hate to admit it but I'm using Pyrodex P in my revolvers. I save the "real" black powder for my flintlock. I'm still looking for a local source for black powder.

 

[Smokin_Gun]

Fourbits, here you go...I just got 10/lb. of KIK fffg & ffg for $139.75 total cost to my door via lil Brown truck. You can mix 2f, 3f, 4f, in one 10-50/lb. order.
http://www.powderinc.com/

SG

 

[Elbert P . Suggins]

Actually Smoking Gun, I bought it at a Pawn Shop as a new in box and he took it back as defective. So he replaced it with a Colt 1st Dragoon NIB vintage of about late 80s along with 250 dollars more. Now I have a real Colt but I only shoot 40 grains of Goex FFF.

 

[Smokin_Gun]

Good Trade! I got a Colt 1st Model Dragoon Signature Series ... 42gs of The Holy Black Powder.

:O)

SG

 

[scrat]

How many grains depends on what your using. Find my walker will only hold 55 grains of goex. Some of the most accurate shooting is with 45 grains though.

 

[bigbadgun]

50 grains works best for mine.