How to deter crime and make BGs think twice

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All of the threads that we have here on THR about criminals getting shot in the commission of their crimes has made me think what steps we can take to lower crime even further. I think the key to lowering to crime is Deterrence.

Deterrence is a very real crime fighting tool that could be better utilized. Deterrence is a naturally occurring social change that can be hard to track. Here is the definition of the word.

Meriam Webster Dictionary Online
Main Entry: de•ter•rence
Function: noun
: the act or process of deterring :
: the inhibition of criminal behavior by fear especially of punishment(or harm)[I added that last part]
: the maintenance of military power for the purpose of discouraging attack


The deterrence we are talking about is the natural tendency for criminals to avoid situations where they could be in contact with an armed citizen. We saw hard evidence of deterrence back in the 90s when FL tourists were getting robbed at an alarming rate. To combat the attacks on visitors the State of FL did pass a law allowing tourists to apply for a CCW. From what I have read the huge upswing of crime against tourist slowly subsided.

My plan is this. Why not start an aggressive education campaign in states like Texas to educate the masses to the very real possibility that if they decide to commit a crime they have a very good chance of meeting a citizen with a gun. There could be signs on busses, billboards, fliers on telephone poles, and PSAs on the radio. This type of campaign would be a huge benefit. Not only would we see criminals who are afraid to rob the 7 Eleven, but we would see a change in public attitude towards the right to self defense.

If you asked the normal person on the street in TX if it was legal to protect their property with a gun many would say “Noâ€. They assume that it is illegal. Many people don’t know that they don’t have to be victims anymore. They don’t know that the great State of Texas allows them to protect their property even with deadly force.

Criminals are even more ignorant of the law. If they realized that for stealing your car you could legally shoot them. I think many would be robbers would think a little harder about what crimes they are willing to commit. I also think it would be good to educate BGs to the actual number of permit holders in TX. If criminals knew there are 236K people with the right to carry in TX I believe that would make them rethink any planned crime sprees. Recently there was a thread authored by P95Carry asking Preacherman what the attitude of prisoners is towards firearms. The good Rev’s overalls consensus was that criminals are basically bullies, if they think you have evened the odds by having a gun they will do whatever they can to avoid a confrontation. I think there would be a rise in crimes where criminals are reasonably certain they will not encounter a law abiding citizen.

In closing I am sure there are some holes in my theory. It is possible that we would see a rise in shootings that are borderline legal or possible gray areas. I am sure the first time a black teen gets shot by a white middle age man there would be a feeding frenzy by the press. I don’t think this would solve all crime, but I think it would start to change the balance especially in neighborhoods that are under siege by drug related crime.

I welcome your comments. I think it would be interesting to see some ad work by the THR members here. Make a hypothetical ad it can be Print, Radio, or TV.



Ad for the side of a bus

Setting: empty Park with jogging trail and a small pond with ducks swimming around
gray haired women who looks to be in early seventies.

Grandma is sitting on a park bench with her purse in her lap. She is pulling out of her purse a Stainless Ruger Super Blackhawk.

Caption: “I am not a victim!!!†one of 236,907 Non Victims in TX
 
I LIKE IT!

I'd like to see ads with pics of law-abiding citizens pointing guns, muzzle at the camera, with your taglines somewhere, or "Criminals; this view could be yours!"

Something like a Desert Eagle .50 would be ideal, especially on a billboard!!! :eek:


:D :D :D
 
Gun

Good idea, I was trying to think of a gun that would be large and easy to see on the side of the bus. A desert eagle would be perfect.
 
All the criminals would flee to New Jersey, Maryland, California, and Illinois!

We could set up prison boundaries:D

These states could tax the criminals to pay for the extra police;)
 
If you read Preacherman's recent thread about criminal attitudes towards guns, you are aware that criminals fall into two groups. The really smart, professional ones and the really stupid ones who believe they have no future anyway.
Your plan is a nice little feel-good fantasy for gunnies, but not something that is likely to have much effect on the criminal population. One group would plan around them, the other group is too stupid and drugged up to care. Neither group ever plans on getting caught or getting killed.
Just like the "Don't mess with Texas" anti-littering signs, after a while your ads would become just another part of the background noise.
 
The problem is exactly what you state:

If you asked the normal person on the street in TX if it was legal to protect their property with a gun many would say “Noâ€. They assume that it is illegal. Many people don’t know that they don’t have to be victims anymore. They don’t know that the great State of Texas allows them to protect their property even with deadly force.

An ad campaign that brings attention to the fact that you can shoot over "mere property" (at night) in TX will just rile up the blissninny's into getting that, IMO, very useful law repealed.

Frankly, I think it's fine. As everything I own, I or my wife used time out of our lives which I will never get back to earn. Or it was a gift, which took family or friends time out of thier lives to earn.

As far as I'm concerned theft of property = theft of life. Now that's not to say that I'm trigger happy, and would shoot a kid trying to make off with tools from my garage, but someone trying to steal my car, or break into my home, you betcha I would, were it not for the laws in WI.

I actually saw a "repo man" show on TLC the other night where a TX repo man was complaining about the law which made it dangerous for him, saying it was "passed in the 1800's over livestock" as if that somehow invalidates the principle now... :rolleyes: (Frankly I think the repo man is a different issue anyway, as non-payment of a car on a loan contract is grand theft/larceny, should be treated as such, and should have police backing if need be.)

I think leaving that Texas law as a shield to those who care enough to research the issue is a happy compromise between trying to publicize it to extremes, and losing it entirely.
 
If you asked the normal person on the street in TX if it was legal to protect their property with a gun many would say “Noâ€.

I really don't believe that's the case. A guy got no billed a few years back after he head shot a repo man driving away in his truck. Never got past the grand jury. It got pretty heavy coverage.

Just this week, somebody shot some vandals in some apartment complex and the police were hoping they would come forward...all the news channels were explaining how the "after dark" rule worked here.

Frankly I think the repo man is a different issue anyway, as non-payment of a car on a loan contract is grand theft/larceny, should be treated as such, and should have police backing if need be.

Haha...I agree, but I don't think it's a repo man's MO to identify himself.
 
Who cares if the sheeple get scared!!!! I think it woudl do them some good.
When the sheeple get scared they bleeat about guns. To the sheeple all guns are bad, yours and the drug dealers. Don't worry so much. Criminals know what the score is, that's why violent crime does down in areas with high CHL populations. Criminals have much more efficienct ways to get the word out than the Internet and bus signs.

Be happy that you know your rights. Educate those who are receptive. Leave the sheeple alone.
 
...many would be robbers would think a little harder about what crimes they are willing to commit.

I wish I could concur; in my experience, however, the vast majority of criminals are too dumb, too drunk, or too high to think very rationally very much of the time.
 
BGs

If only all the bad guys were sober and not high!! Then it would be easier to get this deterence thign working.
 
I think grandma should have something smaller, a Ladysmith, or somesuch, a nice reminder of why "Saturday Night Specials" are so popular with the monetarily challenged. Two birds with one stone, as it were.
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