scrat
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Straw hat nope the 1861 came in a 44. its and 1861 Army. Good shooter usually. Kinda odd though that the pietta outlasted all of them.
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Calibre44
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CAS is quite popular over here too. The British Western Shooting Society (BWSS) was set up in the UK in 1994 based on the successful Single Action Shooting Society (SASS) in the States. It grew in popularity and had a strong following before handguns were banned.
When that happened many CAS shooters simply gave up all together, while others changed to another form of shooting: but despite dwindling numbers and a lack of organised competitions, a few die-hards continued using BP Pistols to keep the sport alive. Today there are a number of clubs that hold regular shoots which are enjoyed by all those concerned.
Click here to see the BWSS website – there is a photo gallery that may interest you.
Here is a chap enjoying a shoot somewhere in the UK – click here
Scrat: great pics of your lads having a great day
When that happened many CAS shooters simply gave up all together, while others changed to another form of shooting: but despite dwindling numbers and a lack of organised competitions, a few die-hards continued using BP Pistols to keep the sport alive. Today there are a number of clubs that hold regular shoots which are enjoyed by all those concerned.
Click here to see the BWSS website – there is a photo gallery that may interest you.
Here is a chap enjoying a shoot somewhere in the UK – click here
Scrat: great pics of your lads having a great day
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RoaringBull
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I spent my Sat with about 198 other folks at a Mission Outdoors event. Most of them had never shot a bp rifle before. All I had was my .50 cal Kentucky. I bet I loaded that thing 100 times. It was cool seeing the looks on people's faces when the flint struck and there was that tiny delay in the rifle firing. Course with the wind blowing about 15-20 mph, and me without any spare flints, we had a few problems gettng it to fire. Even had a few teenage girls give it a try after I assured them I was only loading it with 50 grains of powder.
My wife even said that I needed to show her how to load, to help me out. Maybe I can get her to shooting too. If I just had 3 or 4 more rifles I could keep the line moving faster!
My wife even said that I needed to show her how to load, to help me out. Maybe I can get her to shooting too. If I just had 3 or 4 more rifles I could keep the line moving faster!
Straw Hat and Scrat -
The Blue Book of Modern Black Powder Arms does list a .44 cal 1861 Navy made by - and since discontinued - Pietta. There is no information on number or dates of manufacture.
The listing calls the gun a .44 cal 1861 Navy, rather than an 1861 Army. As with the .44 cal 1851 Navy, the gun has no historical meaning.
The Blue Book of Modern Black Powder Arms does list a .44 cal 1861 Navy made by - and since discontinued - Pietta. There is no information on number or dates of manufacture.
The listing calls the gun a .44 cal 1861 Navy, rather than an 1861 Army. As with the .44 cal 1851 Navy, the gun has no historical meaning.
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A bud & I went to the IWLA to shoot a few.
I took my old CVA Bobcat .50cal, 5.5" barreled Pietta 1858 .44cal & he brought his Traditions Yukon .50cal & 38/44 Nagant 7.62X54mm.
I wanted to see what my Bobcat would do with PRB since it had been 10 years since I had it "traded Logan the Yukon for my ole .50" & I just dreamed up a charge of 80gr. 777fffg with a .490 ball with .15 lubed patch & it worked like a charm at 50 yards hitting just shy of dead center of the paper plate benched & eventually off hand shooting was producing good groups "1.5" was my best" with 90gr. 777fffg at 50 yards & at 100 yards I was doing OK "could be better but the sights are old style & I refuse to change them out & besides I don't plan to take a Deer much past 75 yards any way with it."
Logan & his Yukon using 3 30gr. 777 pelets & a saboted .44cal 240gr. had a hard time grouping at 50 yards & I had to help get him ligned up to hit center of the plate at 50 yards but with a few more outings like this I think I can have him shooting good to 100 yards..
As far as the Mosin Nagant, he never cleaned the creosote out of it from when he bought it at Gander Mountain 6 months ago, so after I cleaned it & noticed that it needed tightening I was able to hit pretty good "2.5" groups average at 50 yards, this thing needs some TLC to get her laying tacks" with it using winchester factory ammo but Logan was not as good but is a work in progress "he doesn't shoot even half as much as I do so he sortof needs a little instruction."
My 1858 was just to have fun on some cans which it is best at but Logan was supprised a little at the recoil of her but understood when I told him that I only load 35gr. FFFG Goex & a .457 143gr. ball & nothing less..
All in all our shooting was fun & informative "for Logan"
After we got back to my home we locked up the guns in my safe so we can watch Iron Man, cool movie
Clean up of the guns was ofcorse when we got back to my house for a few beers & some Nice Ribeyes...
I took my old CVA Bobcat .50cal, 5.5" barreled Pietta 1858 .44cal & he brought his Traditions Yukon .50cal & 38/44 Nagant 7.62X54mm.
I wanted to see what my Bobcat would do with PRB since it had been 10 years since I had it "traded Logan the Yukon for my ole .50" & I just dreamed up a charge of 80gr. 777fffg with a .490 ball with .15 lubed patch & it worked like a charm at 50 yards hitting just shy of dead center of the paper plate benched & eventually off hand shooting was producing good groups "1.5" was my best" with 90gr. 777fffg at 50 yards & at 100 yards I was doing OK "could be better but the sights are old style & I refuse to change them out & besides I don't plan to take a Deer much past 75 yards any way with it."
Logan & his Yukon using 3 30gr. 777 pelets & a saboted .44cal 240gr. had a hard time grouping at 50 yards & I had to help get him ligned up to hit center of the plate at 50 yards but with a few more outings like this I think I can have him shooting good to 100 yards..
As far as the Mosin Nagant, he never cleaned the creosote out of it from when he bought it at Gander Mountain 6 months ago, so after I cleaned it & noticed that it needed tightening I was able to hit pretty good "2.5" groups average at 50 yards, this thing needs some TLC to get her laying tacks" with it using winchester factory ammo but Logan was not as good but is a work in progress "he doesn't shoot even half as much as I do so he sortof needs a little instruction."
My 1858 was just to have fun on some cans which it is best at but Logan was supprised a little at the recoil of her but understood when I told him that I only load 35gr. FFFG Goex & a .457 143gr. ball & nothing less..
All in all our shooting was fun & informative "for Logan"
After we got back to my home we locked up the guns in my safe so we can watch Iron Man, cool movie
Clean up of the guns was ofcorse when we got back to my house for a few beers & some Nice Ribeyes...
Maybe. The Pietta 1860 Army has a rebated cylinder and weighs more. Both have a 7 1/2" barrel, however, so the difference in weight is probably in the frame. The original 1860 Army frame and grip size were larger than the original 1861 Navy, I believe. But then, Pietta is obviously not known for putting historical accuracy above manufacturing expediency, so maybe there is no real difference. I don't have an 1861 .44 cal Navy, so I can't tell for sure. All I know is what I read.
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