How would one mount a scope on this AR?

[David Hoback]

Great reason to swap to a 12”-15” free float rail & flip up sight, if it’s a distraction. Better accuracy potential from the FF rail and longer sight base!

 

[BigBL87]

3) don't install irons and a scope. Never seen a scenario that would destroy a good scope but leave the irons intact, where you would!d still want to shoot the gun. I think backup irons are a boondoggle.

I get what you're saying, but it also doesn't account for simple mechanical failure of the scope. Not even talking about life or death situations, but if I'm at the range I'd rather not have to stop shooting for the day just because something in the scope came loose. If I could just pop the scope off (QD or not since I have the tools in my range bag), I can continue enjoying my day on the range with my irons. They aren't a make or break proposition, but they aren't without their value.

 

[czhen]

In addition to above ideas, you can use a Wheeler Picatiny Rail riser, it come in different heights for $25.-

 

[greyling22]

I get what you're saying, but it also doesn't account for simple mechanical failure of the scope. Not even talking about life or death situations, but if I'm at the range I'd rather not have to stop shooting for the day just because something in the scope came loose. If I could just pop the scope off (QD or not since I have the tools in my range bag), I can continue enjoying my day on the range with my irons. They aren't a make or break proposition, but they aren't without their value.

I always have something else with me at the range. or I can just happily pick up brass.

 

[Skylerbone]

I don’t currently own an “precision” AR and only my kids’ ARs have scopes. If you’re looking at a higher power (3-9x or more) I’d skip on sights and leave the front post alone. If you’re looking at a low power optic then buy the Burris P.E.P.R. QD and a good flip up rear sight.

The QD version is tool-less and cheap, albeit heavy-ish.


It isn’t easy to photograph with a phone camera but this shot best represents what I see at low (1.5)x. You get a fuzzy gray outline below the crosshairs.


This is not how my rifle is normally configured.


Rear Troy non-folding, front F-marked FSB, aka irons only.

 

[entropy]

I never said it was an issue, only that you will see it. Which is true. It 'can' be something of a distraction at first and a distraction is something that takes your focus away from the target.

And the solution is simple: Practice.

 

[David Hoback]

I’m still wondering why people are still running front sight blocks in 2020. In 2005 I was cutting/modifying my sight blocks to become low-pro FSB’s. And running 10”-12” FF rails. Like this one. (sorry for the strange look, but there is some sensitive material I had to obscure). Anyway, this was 2005! This is when the “M4” look, plastic furniture and all, was SO popular! Everyone thought I was crazy..... Running a 4-rail FF handguard, and Phantom 5C2 FH. (Again, the “trusted” A2 was the way to go then, LOL.


Sorry.....I digress. My point again is, a Free float handguard and flip up sights, eliminate ALL worries of any “ghost” image.

 

[Skylerbone]

I’m still wondering why people are still running front sight blocks in 2020.

Because many ARs are still used sans optics and an FSB with fixed rear is as bulletproof as it gets.

Anyway, this was 2005! This is when the “M4” look, plastic furniture and all, was SO popular! Everyone thought I was crazy..... Running a 4-rail FF handguard,

Now that I know what I know, I much prefer plastic guards to quad rails, even the half-quad style I used to use. Both of these choices are as always a matter of preference or best guess at what is suitable for the owner’s intended purpose.


Same rifle (bottom of picture) as above in its original configuration (minus the rear sight). Gave the RDS to my BIL.


Still free floated, far more comfortable, MLOK utility, and set up irons only with the FSB intact.


Of course I have other options when I choose to use optics and nothing prevents me from adding optics as I have in the past on the rifle including a 3-9x scope and various RDSs.

 

[David Hoback]

Skylerbone, you misunderstood. I’m not recommending going to a 4-rail. Of course not. That pic was the last 4-rail I used in a build. Again..THAT was ‘05....15 years ago! The beginning of all this.
I agree with you on handguard use. I’ve been using SSFFR handguards for many years now in my builds. And it’s using a FREE FLOAT option that I was stressing, not the difference in material..i.e., Plastic vs Aluminum. My meaning was towards using M4 Carbine plastics. Which, back then is what EVERYONE had. Very few were running longer free floated rails.

That was one of my first built in the pic...to that, I have built more in the last several than you have in that picture. Every one since has had a 12”+ FF rail.

Sorry I wasn’t clear.

 

[FL-NC]

In order to use the irons, he really needs to use a 1x red dot with the appropriate eye relief. For a quick detach mount, look at Larue tactical. Stay away from ARMS mounts.

 

[Hookeye]

Yote rifle

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[Hookeye]

Will play w the 5.5" flash hider. See if moving it a little tunes it like a B.O.S.S.
16" bbl is now 21" ish.
Has to help w blast.....which seems extra bad once the trees lose the leaves.
Try electronic ear pro.....save what little is left.
Dunno how being bundled up is gonna affect things, we hunt after deer season.
55gr V max I hope does well.

 

[CraigC]

I’m still wondering why people are still running front sight blocks in 2020. In 2005 I was cutting/modifying my sight blocks to become low-pro FSB’s. And running 10”-12” FF rails. Like this one. (sorry for the strange look, but there is some sensitive material I had to obscure). Anyway, this was 2005! This is when the “M4” look, plastic furniture and all, was SO popular! Everyone thought I was crazy..... Running a 4-rail FF handguard, and Phantom 5C2 FH. (Again, the “trusted” A2 was the way to go then, LOL.
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Sorry.....I digress. My point again is, a Free float handguard and flip up sights, eliminate ALL worries of any “ghost” image.

Probably because a lot of guns and uppers, like the one in the OP, come with them. Fixed front sights are bombproof and that setup is usually a lot cheaper. All the free float tubes I've bought in the last six months were $130-$150. Add to that the cost of flip sights and/or a lowprofile gas block and you're looking at a substantial cash outlay. Now, I prefer that setup but it does cost a good bit more, building or buying.

 

[Hookeye]

Non carry handle AR w a fixed front sight, slap a scope of more than 3X mag and it's usable as a varminter. .223 is pretty good out to 300 or so.
Yank the scope and add a rear iron sight for a home defense rig.
Sounds pretty handy.

 

[entropy]

Two different uppers is just as easy, and you don't have to worry about zeros; plus if you built the home defense rig as a pistol first, then buy a 16, 18, or 20" upper for it you don't have to worry about whether the wrong parts are on it at any given time.

 

[Peakbagger46]

Thanks all for the education!