Art Eatman
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rileyMc, I'll repeat, rephrasing: I shopped around (Okay, so it was my wife who did the actual shopping.) We saved a ton of money, that way.
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Right, Art. What you would have how is a Medicare supplemental. There are several standard plans, A through J, I think. None but the top 2 or 3 are very expensive, because they only pay the portion Medicare does not pay.I'll repeat, rephrasing: I shopped around (Okay, so it was my wife who did the actual shopping.) We saved a ton of money, that way.
What is your realistic alternative?
would think it would only matter if you already had health care insurance or not. I can't wait for everybody here to turn 65 and then present this thread again.
You ARE kidding me right?I never knew that. If that's true, where the hell do the Dems get off blaming the Republicans for the problems caused by HMOs?
Well, I have to say that the "elderly" in the US today are the longest-lived, most free, most potentially happy and the richest group of people in the history of all time.I would think it would only matter if you already had health care insurance or not. I can't wait for everybody here to turn 65 and then present this thread again.
Sorry to use you as a stereotype Iain, I am sure you are a great guy, but this is why I dislike most English people. They have had their mediocre Socialist system for so long they really believe that it is good to be mediocre and that anyone that says otherwise is hard-hearted and unreasonable.I'll admit - on this issue I have socialist tendencies.
No. I never claimed to know a lot of the politics surrounding HMOs. But, seeing the dems criticize the repubs when one of their top guys helped create the HMO system seems pretty hipocritical.I never knew that. If that's true, where the hell do the Dems get off blaming the Republicans for the problems caused by HMOs?
You ARE kidding me right?
In another thread I saw a member ask another member with Crohn's Disease, who admitted he had run up $2m in medical bills, what he felt that everyone owed him. I figure that at the very least he is owed an existence that is slightly more comfortable and worthwhile than he would have if everyone took the angle that his health is not their responsibility.
Another problem with Socialized Medicine.
If the government is paying for your health care (which means your fellow citizens are paying for your health care) then you give the government the right to make health decisions for you.
That would include things like eating meat, driving a convertable or motorcycle, owning guns, spending too much (or too little) time in the sun, sitting too close to the TV, not drinking your required 8 glasses of water a day, etc.
If government pays for the upkeep of your body, then they own it.
There is no way that freedom can exist under any form of Socialism.
All of those are covered by Medicare. Your medicare premium is deducted from your social security check. The various optional supplemental plans pay the 20% Medicare doesn't cover.Car wrecks, cancer, heart attacks, strokes. The stuff you can't afford from your own pocket. Hospital in-patient stuff, mostly, and some out-patient surgery.