Howa 1500 Rifle?

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Today I stopped in my local Gander Mountain store to pick-up some CLP, targets and other misc. stuff. Of course, I can't walk into the store without perusing the gun section, so I handled a few handguns and then turned my attention to the rifles.

I'd really kind of made up my mind that my next rifle was going to be a Savage 10FP in .308 with a 24" barrel, but they didn't have one of those in stock for me to fondle. But, in the used gun section they had an interesting rifle, a Howa 1500 ( in .308 ).

I know that Howa used to build the actions for Weatherby's Vangaurd series of guns, but this particular gun was marked as a Howa 1500. It has a blued action with a 24" heavy barrel and a nice McMillan synthetic stock. The trigger was really nice for an out-of-the-box, "budget" rifle. I'd estimate it at 3-4lbs with no noticable creep or over-travel. The fit and finish was nice, and the price was even better ( $475 ).

I was informed that the gun was actually a new gun, but it was marked as used because it is "last year's model". Apparently Gander Mountain had purchased all of the over-stock guns from the manufacturer/importer, but since the price was significantly lower than the new model, they were required to sell them as used.

Instead of just buying the gun outright, I had them order a Savage 10FP and I put the Howa on lay-away. If the Savage comes in and I really like it better, I can transfer my lay-away money to the Savage. The Savage is significantly more money, though ( $625 ). So if I decide I want the Howa, they'll just put the Savage on the shelf and sell it to someone else.

I'm not having much luck Googling the Howa 1500, and I've found NOTHING on the actual model/configuration of this particular gun ( "Ultimate Varminter"? ), so if anyone has some info they could share, I'd really appreciate it.

As a side note: One of the guys that works in the gun department of GM shoots long-range rifles competitively. I've talked to him quite a bit, and I trust his opinion. He said he bought the identical gun in .22-250 when they came in ( This model is available in .223, .22-250 and .308 ), and he said he likes it a lot, especially for the price.
 
I really like both savage and howa. they give you a quality product for a reasonable price. great that you can transfer your deposit and handle BOTH! when that happens you'll be able to choose easily. if both seem equally suited to you go with the cheaper one:p
 
That rifle is the exact same action as the Weatherby Vanguard and the same as the Smith & Wesson 1500. I'm sure it will be a good shooter.

I would however be VERY suprised if that stock was a McMillan, or even an HS Precision for that price. If it is, thats the deal of the century. From what I can tell it was never a factory option, but I guess it's possible that it's a "special run".
 
"...marked as used because it is "last year's model"..." That's just silly. Used means just that. Not that it matters.
Howa is one of those Japanese companies that makes everything under the sun. Their rifles are of high quality though. I'm surprised you couldn't find anything with a net search. Yahoo gives about 62,800 sites when searching for 'Howa rifles'. 25,200 sites using 'howa 1500'.
They didn't just make the actions for Weatherby. They made the whole thing.
 
I found a ton of stuff on Howa rifles, just not on the 1500 varminter. The guy told me he "thought" it was McMillan, but obviously he could be wrong. The stock was nice though. It had a nice, wide, ventilated fore-end and a perfectly shaped Monte Carlo stock. It was a heavy gun, but not too heavy.

The newer Howa rifles have a Boyd's laminated thumbhole stock. The one I am talking about looks EXACTLY like this, but with a synthetic stock (same vented fore-end, same comb, same everything).

howa_1500_varminter_supreme.jpg
 
I bought a cheapo Howa 1500 Lightning with syn. stock in .308 Win. for $325 and after floating the barrel it shoots pretty dang good :) It does deserve a better stock, for the $ Howa is a good value. I have yet to own a Savage, but hear only good things about them.
 
10FP

Is the 10FP that much?

My dealer quotes me $611 on a Savage 12BVSS. The BVSS I think is more gun.

Here's one for under $500 shipped NIB
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=67324807

Find an FFL. There are a few listed for Columbus for about $20 bucks.
http://www.gunbroker.com/User/FFLByState.asp

$485+$15+$20 = $520 All you have to do is have it shipped to your transfer dealer. No sales tax!
$625 + $32 =$657 and they don't even have it in stock.
The Columbus Gander Mt. is high!
 
Yeah. Bud's Gun Shop has the Savage for $512.45 before shipping and FFL. Maybe I should rethink the rifle purchase... I could always apply my lay-away money to something else. ;)
 
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