Howdah Style but 12ga

[lonewolf172]

Not sure if this allowed and if it isn't I'll delete it. First I'm not affiliated or an employee of American Gun Craft. I've seen some interest in their 12ga 6" barreled Diablo. Did you know they also have two others not quite in production yet but I'm hoping with more interest emailed to them they'll start up. Their other 2 muzzle loaders are the Bull-dog and Wrath. Both have 11" barrels, external hammers and double triggers. The Bull-dog is more straight forward while the Wrath I believe is more towards hunting since it looks like it has a picatinny rail. Here's 2 pictures. The 1st is the Bull-dog and the 2nd the Wrath.

 

[arcticap]

When I went to their home page, a pop up ad asked to sign up to win a Bulldog pistol and a Diable pistol.
It did not say win either / or, but indicated that they were giving away both.
Whether that's their only prototype or not is beyond me.
But I don't see the Bulldog or Wrath listed as a product on their website.
Before it used to say "not available" or something like that.
Those models may be coming some day, but the company doesn't seem to be well funded or have much financial capital.
I don't see how contacting them will help them to make the products any sooner.
When they start taking orders and folks still need to wait 6 months or more to get one would show that their production is closer to reality.
They're able to make double barrels for the Diable which shows they're capable, but building the rest of the gun probably requires more investment money than they have available.
Or else they could have already made some to sell to help get the ball rolling.

Another issue is they used to have a Youtube channel, but that's no longer listed as existing on Youtube.
Maybe it's been made private since they didn't post any videos of their guns on it anyway.
It shows that they don't want to be involved in promoting their guns when they may not even be able to produce enough Diablos to meet consumer demand.

Although they did place an ad on Armslist a while back stating that Diablo factory seconds were available.
And I've also seen Google ads for the Diablo based on my browser activity.
But apparently no other real promotion attempts have been made by American Gun Craft to try to sell their own products.
They must be woefully underfunded or the manufacturing capacity that's dedicated to their black powder guns is very small.
If they could afford to make some new products then they probably would have already.
I don't think that it's because they don't want to, but rather because they simply can't make them yet for whatever reasons.

 

[lonewolf172]

When I went to their home page, a pop up ad asked to sign up to win a Bulldog pistol and a Diable pistol.
It did not say win either / or, but indicated that they were giving away both.
Whether that's their only prototype or not is beyond me.
But I don't see the Bulldog or Wrath listed as a product on their website.
Before it used to say "not available" or something like that.
Those models may be coming some day, but the company doesn't seem to be well funded or have much financial capital.
I don't see how contacting them will help them to make the products any sooner.
When they start taking orders and folks still need to wait 6 months or more to get one would show that their production is closer to reality.
They're able to make double barrels for the Diable which shows they're capable, but building the rest of the gun probably requires more investment money than they have available.
Or else they could have already made some to sell to help get the ball rolling.

Another issue is they used to have a Youtube channel, but that's no longer listed as existing on Youtube.
Maybe it's been made private since they didn't post any videos of their guns on it anyway.
It shows that they don't want to be involved in promoting their guns when they may not even be able to produce enough Diablos to meet consumer demand.

Although they did place an ad on Armslist a while back stating that Diablo factory seconds were available.
And I've also seen Google ads for the Diablo based on my browser activity.
But apparently no other real promotion attempts have been made by American Gun Craft to try to sell their own products.
They must be woefully underfunded or the manufacturing capacity that's reserved for their black powder guns is very small.
If they could afford to make some new products then they probably would have already.
I don't think that it's because they don't want to, but rather because they simply can't make them yet for whatever reasons.

Not to sure about their issues but in emailing them they did say they'd be coming out with either of the 2 they're just not sure when. I'm trying to keep in touch with them so they know how interested in the Bull-dog I am. may or may not mean anything.

 

[expat_alaska]

IIRC, the "wood" is actually plastic.

 

[Malachi Leviticus Blue]

Maybe I'm getting cynical in my years on earth, but every post about American Gun Craft smells like it's being made by someone affiliated or an employee of American Gun Craft, even though they say it's not.
Seems like maybe it's harder to make a fake review or post sound real than most folks likely think.
There has been a fair amount of chatter about them on here in the past and it's been a flop.
If they had some inventory, they would be heading in the right direction.
It would be easy to sell their product on Gunbroker with actual inventory and make a (Good if deserved) name for themselves.

 

[grter]

There are already a good amount of youtube videos out there featuring the diablo and people do like them. My understanding is they are shipping them now within a few weeks after ordering on a somewhat consistent basis. I have been told AN 11 INCH VERSION OF THE DIABLO is coming out in 2 to 3 months from now to be announced via newsletter. That would be really good.

An American made muzzleloading short barrel shotgun that uses shotgun primers (wow who would have ever thought of that) of good quality for a decent price. I am supportive of their endeavor.

 

[arcticap]

In March, 2o2o, I received a Covid19 Update email for AGC.
It included photos of dozens of finished and unfinished Diablo pistols.

The email stated in part:

...We are securing higher levels of inventory than normal and expediting items when possible

We are working closely with vendors to assure that parts will arrive in a timely manner.....

....If you are thinking about placing a new order, we have a good supply of materials coming in for builds.....

....We are dedicated to producing a quality product by building items in small batches by hand....

Two recent Google reviews over the last 4 weeks for the Diablo indicate that the wait time to receive a pistol is 9-10 weeks.
Those reviews can be found by Googling "American Gun Craft" and clicking on reviews on the right hand side of the page.

 

[grter]

Beautiful pictures. They look absolutely fabulous. I wonder if they would sell the barrels for those who wish to change barrel lengths from time to time depending on the mood assuming those 11 inch barrel versions come out.