FieroCDSP
Member
I just read throgh the bill as it passed. The biggest thing I'm seeing here is that it's going to allocate $125 Million to this program which will only make the NICS delay a bit longer, and create more paperwork. The fact that it makes misdemeanor domestic violence offenders more pronounced in the system is moot. If you lie on the NICS form about a conviction in that, you're a felon.
This one is important:
(d) Information Excluded From NICS Records-
(1) IN GENERAL- No department or agency of the Federal Government may make available to the Attorney General, for use by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (nor may the Attorney General make available to such system), the name or any other relevant identifying information of any person adjudicated or determined to be mentally defective or any person committed to a mental institution for purposes of assisting the Attorney General in enforcing subsections (d)(4) and (g)(4) of section 922 of title 18, United States Code, unless such adjudication, determination, or commitment, respectively, included a finding that the person is a danger to himself or to others or that the person lacks the mental capacity to manage his own affairs.
Okay...so all this bill does is requires the states to do a set level of records updates to the NICS system, provides them with money to do it, provides for AG office oversight of the revision program, says that the requirements for mental and criminal are as defined in 922 USC.
First, this would not have stopped Cho, as the courts failed there. Second, I am not seeing anything here that is doom and gloom as some say. I don't approve of it as it's going to jam the system in place up horribly, cost more money, and is being done in what I consider a slight-of-hand way. Also, I don't approve of the generic defining of Domestic violence, but a woman has always been able to claim being beaten regardless of whether the guy actually did it or not.
Can anyone find in the revised version that passed the house where it says they're going to take all of our guns away? Can anyone find in here where there is any room for skewing the lines a bit to take rights away from anyone who otherwise doesn't deserve it under the provisions in 922?
I am interested here in what actually is to be concerned about that hasn't already been done to us in the past 20 years. Please back up with non-emotional statements and where in the REVISED bill it is.
So far, all I've seen about this bill is the doom and gloom provided by GOA and others who I'm not sure are really in tune with what this bill says. I AM against it personally. But I am asking you why people on the fence, or even those slightly on our side of it, should not back this as sent to the Senate.
This one is important:
(d) Information Excluded From NICS Records-
(1) IN GENERAL- No department or agency of the Federal Government may make available to the Attorney General, for use by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (nor may the Attorney General make available to such system), the name or any other relevant identifying information of any person adjudicated or determined to be mentally defective or any person committed to a mental institution for purposes of assisting the Attorney General in enforcing subsections (d)(4) and (g)(4) of section 922 of title 18, United States Code, unless such adjudication, determination, or commitment, respectively, included a finding that the person is a danger to himself or to others or that the person lacks the mental capacity to manage his own affairs.
Okay...so all this bill does is requires the states to do a set level of records updates to the NICS system, provides them with money to do it, provides for AG office oversight of the revision program, says that the requirements for mental and criminal are as defined in 922 USC.
First, this would not have stopped Cho, as the courts failed there. Second, I am not seeing anything here that is doom and gloom as some say. I don't approve of it as it's going to jam the system in place up horribly, cost more money, and is being done in what I consider a slight-of-hand way. Also, I don't approve of the generic defining of Domestic violence, but a woman has always been able to claim being beaten regardless of whether the guy actually did it or not.
Can anyone find in the revised version that passed the house where it says they're going to take all of our guns away? Can anyone find in here where there is any room for skewing the lines a bit to take rights away from anyone who otherwise doesn't deserve it under the provisions in 922?
I am interested here in what actually is to be concerned about that hasn't already been done to us in the past 20 years. Please back up with non-emotional statements and where in the REVISED bill it is.
So far, all I've seen about this bill is the doom and gloom provided by GOA and others who I'm not sure are really in tune with what this bill says. I AM against it personally. But I am asking you why people on the fence, or even those slightly on our side of it, should not back this as sent to the Senate.