Hunter and host of 'Larysa Unleashed' faces gun charges in Scotland over 'goat trophy'

[Scooter22]

I must be missing something. She paid for the hunt and was approved. She was successful and posted pics like ANY MALE hunter would do. Shes a very attractive young woman that promoting herself. She has a "Hen Do" party with other very attractive young ladies hunting.. A woman's Stag party. Plastic arm Sex Toy? Any of you seen what goes on at a MENS STAG party.? We in the hunting/gun owner community have more to worry about than some attractive young woman promoting herself. You think this would have any publicity if it was some average woman hunter that isn't model looking? I doubt it. So back another hunter up! What a bunch of crap. Oh and for those that said it "annoys" people over there. Take a look in the royal and upper class homes and lodges of all the game trophies.

 

[LRDGCO]

In the UK at the moment. Was at a hunt meet yesterday in Yorkshire (fox hunting on horseback - known as “hunting”; everything else is shooting). Hunting was “banned” 20+ years ago. The law only allows the hounds to follow dragged “scent”. However, if while following the drag, the hounds get the scent of a hare or a fox, there’s no stopping them. So, in fact, the ban has made no difference, as hunting always involved a lot of sitting around waiting for the hounds to get on scent, interspersed with moments of adrenaline fueled terror going hell-for-leather over hedges and gates, and quite a bit of drinking to chase the shakes away after doing so and building Dutch courage for the next interlude.

Very little risk of protestors in West Yorks anyway, but 25 years ago, every Boxing Day meet would have unwashed townies protesting the slaughter of poor little foxes, cops and barriers, and the odd thrashing of a dirty hippie.

The UK is very polarized with the urban hipster socialist outragencia opposed to hunting and shooting as the preserve of rich knobs, which it is, and people in the country resenting townies sticking their snotty noses in where they don’t belong.

Incidentally, after vast quantities of breakfast port, and a sampling of hip flasks, I was up and over several terrifying hedges, off only once and saved from severe injury by my boozy state, and the hounds did get on and shred a hare. Lots of fun but aches and pains this morning.

 

[Scooter22]

In the UK at the moment. Was at a hunt meet yesterday in Yorkshire (fox hunting on horseback - known as “hunting”; everything else is shooting). Hunting was “banned” 20+ years ago. The law only allows the hounds to follow dragged “scent”. However, if while following the drag, the hounds get the scent of a hare or a fox, there’s no stopping them. So, in fact, the ban has made no difference, as hunting always involved a lot of sitting around waiting for the hounds to get on scent, interspersed with moments of adrenaline fueled terror going hell-for-leather over hedges and gates, and quite a bit of drinking to chase the shakes away after doing so and building Dutch courage for the next interlude.

Very little risk of protestors in West Yorks anyway, but 25 years ago, every Boxing Day meet would have unwashed townies protesting the slaughter of poor little foxes, cops and barriers, and the odd thrashing of a dirty hippie.

The UK is very polarized with the urban hipster socialist outragencia opposed to hunting and shooting as the preserve of rich knobs, which it is, and people in the country resenting townies sticking their snotty noses in where they don’t belong.

Incidentally, after vast quantities of breakfast port, and a sampling of hip flasks, I was up and over several terrifying hedges, off only once and saved from severe injury by my boozy state, and the hounds did get on and shred a hare. Lots of fun but aches and pains this morning.

You completely lost me my friend. But I think thats why we are the USA these days and not put up with that..........stuff.

 

[Skoghund]

The story I read had comments that criticized the shooting of sheep and goats, but it was explained as necessary for culling, so I guess it was the posing is what some found objectionable.

The pick of her stag looked impressive and compared to some of the boorish behavior on TV hunting shows hers seemed tame.

I'm not against posing with shot game but there are more taste full ways to do it when you are going to post on faceache and twatter . I had to smile at the Black face sheep she shot. An old blackface tup past his best worth about £50 at slaughter but sold to the young lady for a good trophy fee. The jocks can certainly see the gullible coming when it comes to earning a shilling. The county of Norfolk has some superb red wild red deer, fallow, roe, muntjac and Chinese water deer but not a single wild soay sheep to pose with a sex toy.
I wonder what the reaction would be in the US hunting press if a group of women hunters came to the US from Europe and behaved badly enough to have the hunting trip cancelled half way through and then posted tasteless photo's on social media?

 

[Odd Job]

Several issues brought up in this thread, I'll address them one by one:

1) Suppressors in the UK.

As other members have said, suppressor use (or sound "moderator" as it is called here) is generally encouraged because it reduces noise and it reduces the likelihood of hearing damage. Whether a detachable suppressor has to be licensed or not depends on the firearm it is being attached to. For example, I have several rimfire suppressors and they all have to be on a firearms certificate (FAC) because a .22 rimfire rifle is a "Section 1" firearm which requires a license.
The police (at least in my area) do not hamper licensees applying for slots on their FAC for suppressors, in fact they actively encourage it.
If you have a shotgun on a Section 2 FAC you can buy a suppressor for it over the counter without the requirement for a license. But, you better not put that on a Section 1 shotgun, because then you will be breaking the law. A suppressor going on a section 1 shotgun has to be on license.

In England you can own an air rifle or an air pistol without a license as long as it falls under a certain foot/pounds energy level at the muzzle. You can buy a moderator for that air weapon without a license too, but you better not be caught using it on a firearm, because you will then be breaking the law.
In Scotland, you cannot have any air weapon, regardless of muzzle energy, unless it is on a firearms certificate. That was a change in the law that happened fairly recently. It follows that you can't be shooting game or varmints or pests in Scotland with a rifle or an air rifle, without some kind of license (as the owner of the weapon).

2) Charges brought against the hunter in the original article.

I would have to know more about this, such as who owned the firearms, what FAC they were on, and the way that they were lent to the shooter. There are limitations to lending firearms, some of which relate to the direct supervision of the shooter. There is not enough information to comment further.

3) Trophy posing.

This comes down to personal preference but may be influenced by local customs and etiquette. There are those who feel it shows lack of respect for the animal to pose with it: some hunters will do it and some won't. The UK, as a whole, can be branded anti-gun on balance. In those circumstances it might make sense not to do any trophy posing, or at least not publish photos of it. There will be those on both sides of the debate and I don't think we'll get anywhere with it on this forum.

4) Posing with a sex toy.

Nothing good will ever come of that, it was a crass, stupid thing to do. It does nothing positive for the image of hunters and she rightly should be criticized for it. She needs to check herself and her thought processes.

 

[Art Eatman]

IMO the sex-toy deal was trashy, low-rent behavior. "Her taste is in her mouth, not in her style'' is an old descriptive phrase which seems to apply.

But hunters have been posing with trophies since at least as far back as Teddy Roosevelt, so that part of her deal is neither new nor unusual.

People like trophies: Heisman, rodeo belt buckles, Indy 500, Super Bowl rings, you name it.

 

[H&Hhunter]

Yeah..not seeing a problem here. A good reminder as to why we kicked these stuffed shirted, pompous idiots out of our country several hundred years ago.

In regards to the sex toy thing...... meh. Probably shouldn't have been posted on social media. I've seen worse.

 

[Art Eatman]

Toys? The real thing is much better. Why would I use AirSoft when I already have a .30-'06?