"Hunter shoots Grizzly Bear in North Idaho"

[Ugly Sauce]

June 8th, a "non-resident" hunter shot a grizz in the same mountains that I haunt, only on the Idaho side of the border. Yep there is grizz in them-thar hills. In the GMU where I hunt, you can't get a bear tag unless you pass a test as to being able to tell the difference between a grizz and a black. No such requirement on the Idaho side I guess.

Anyhow, that's too bad. Itchy trigger finger? Dum-dum hunter? Honest mistake?

 

[MikeInOr]

What is the purpose of hunting bears? Is it purely population control? Or do they have meat that people eat?

 

[Ugly Sauce]

What is the purpose of hunting bears? Is it purely population control? Or do they have meat that people eat?

Yes, we eat the meat. And the hide is useful to make things, or just throw on the floor. I had mine turned into summer-sausage/pepperoni sticks, they are very delicious.

 

[.308 Norma]

What is the purpose of hunting bears? Is it purely population control? Or do they have meat that people eat?

I don't hunt them anymore, but if I did it would be because I'd kind of like to have one really nice bear rug. As far as the meat goes, I've eaten bear meat ONCE. Like frog legs, I won't eat it again.

 

[.308 Norma]

Anyhow, that's too bad. Itchy trigger finger? Dum-dum hunter? Honest mistake?

I'm guessing about 80% "dum dum hunter" and 20% "honest mistake."

Yep there is grizz in them-thar hills

Nevertheless, you're right - "there's grizz in them-thar hills." They're not all that rare in this part of Idaho. But that's probably because we're not far from Yellowstone where the largest population of grizzlies in the lower 48 resides. There's an almost annual debate here about whether or not grizzly hunting should be legalized. And it always ends up in a shouting match with nothing getting resolved.

 

[21H40]

Anyhow, that's too bad. Itchy trigger finger? Dum-dum hunter? Honest mistake?

The REAL question is did they use the correct firearm and caliber? From reading different threads here, I'm practically and expert on bear shooting requirements. You have to use a bolt action in 375 or larger, except when you use an AR-10 or a 12 gauge. You can use a pistol if you're surprised, of course, but it has to be either a 44 Magnum or 10mm with depleted uranium wadcutters.

 

[troy fairweather]

Maybe a case of if it's brown it's going down.

 

[jmorris]

Maybe it was one of those attacks everyone is preparing for…

 

[Ugly Sauce]

The REAL question is did they use the correct firearm and caliber? From reading different threads here, I'm practically and expert on bear shooting requirements. You have to use a bolt action in 375 or larger, except when you use an AR-10 or a 12 gauge. You can use a pistol if you're surprised, of course, but it has to be either a 44 Magnum or 10mm with depleted uranium wadcutters.

Ha ha that's funny. Probably shot it with a .30-30! .243? The bear is probably not actually dead, just thinks it was a .375H&H, so he presumes that he is dead. Probably packing a .22 Magnum pistol in case of surprise. The Article sure didn't give much detail. But they did say he realized his mistake, and contacted the Game Department right away. Just a couple years ago they tagged a very large Grizz there, I hope it wasn't that one.

Many years ago, many, before anyone knew there was Grizz up there some hunters shot a Grizz and thought they had shot "the record black bear" Yes, they were that dum-dum. Dum-dum has not limits. They came back to town drunk and celebrating, took it to the taxidermist...who looked at it and said..."ah boys...that ain't no black bear." The got in a heap of trouble for it too, lost their hunting licenses and got slapped with some very hefty fines. Soon after that they started re-locating Grizz into the area. I know of a couple "problem bears" they dumped there at first. Not sure if I'm cool with that. However, makes it more fun and exciting.

 

[troy fairweather]

Never know when and where animals will pop up, about 10 years ago there was a moose hit on the highway and killed less then 50 miles from NYC. About 5-10 miles south of West point.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

And it always ends up in a shouting match with nothing getting resolved.

Sounds kind of like the wolf situation.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

Never know when and where animals will pop up, about 10 years ago there was a moose hit on the highway and killed less then 50 miles from NYC. About 5-10 miles south of West point.

Truth...a wolf just got hit on the highway here where I live. There's been wolf sightings, which I did not believe. Just figured people were seeing someone's German Sheppard running loose. I would not call this "wolf habitat" SouthWest of Spokane. Thought I saw two on the state land one day, but again didn't really think I saw what I thought I saw. Big Coyotes I tried to convince myself.

 

[.308 Norma]

However, makes it more fun and exciting.

Exactly!

"Those who have packed far up into grizzly country know that the presence of even one grizzly on the land elevates the mountains, deepens the canyons, chills the winds, brightens the stars, darkens the forest, and quickens the pulse of all who enter it.”
John Murray

 

[troy fairweather]

Truth...a wolf just got hit on the highway here where I live. There's been wolf sightings, which I did not believe. Just figured people were seeing someone's German Sheppard running loose. I would not call this "wolf habitat" SouthWest of Spokane. Thought I saw two on the state land one day, but again didn't really think I saw what I thought I saw. Big Coyotes I tried to convince myself.

The county above me does a coyote hunt every year in February, one year I hope to partake in thus hunt. Last year or one before they had one shot over 100 pounds, of course they had it tested and it came back wolf, weirder thing is apparently it's some kind of wolf they think was Extinct, think it was the northeast wolf but can't remember. It's like how new York will Deny there are mountain lion in ny, I've seen one in 2012 and there are many trail cams with them.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

It's like how new York will Deny there are mountain lion in ny, I've seen one in 2012 and there are many trail cams with them.

In Washington State, and Idaho, they deny how many wolves there are. You multiply their estimate by ten, and get the real number. They aren't eating livestock in Washington they say, then next thing you know they are shooting down entire packs from a helicopter, instead of issuing some tags to hunters who would love to have a wolf hide. In Idaho they are allowing some wolf hunting, but to what extent I don't know. And wow they are shooting some big ones. Hugh!

 

[Larry in wyoming]

Sometimes they just won't pose for you.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

I don't mind getting a glimpse of one, once in a while. But I'd rather not have them pose. I like to see them run away.

 

[borrowedtime69]

What is the purpose of hunting bears? Is it purely population control? Or do they have meat that people eat?

Oh, yes, I've had autumn black bear sausage for chilli and spaghetti that was better than some pork I've had. However, always cook bear meat well done as most tricanosis cases nowadays comes from that and not pork.

 

[Larry in wyoming]

I've had good bear meat. I've had bad bear meat. I don't need to kill another bear. I'd go bear hunting again though. If only to hear the hounds run

 

[drobs]

Since we are discussing Coyotes, I'd like to drift this Bear thread a little more and mention I recently heard Armadillos have been spotted tearing up lawns in Illinois.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

The rendered fat or grease, more like oil from bear fat is kind of a miracle oil. One of the best for cooking, treating leather, patch lube for muzzle loaders, I rub it on my best oil finished gun-stocks, and the list goes on. Seems to protect knife blades from rust better than other oils. Good stuff.

 

[jmorris]

I don't mind getting a glimpse of one, once in a while. But I'd rather not have them pose. I like to see them run away.

Doesn’t always happen, this is one my BIL sent me.



Not a raging grizzly or a cuddle bug, just an animal that knows where to get what it wants.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

Well yeah, then there's the "park bears". Where I hunt, trek, hike, explore, there is plenty of bear, (black bear and grizzly) but they sure do not stick around if they detect a human.

 

[Frulk]

I’m unclear on what the issue is here with shooting a bear. Are you saying that this hunter shot a grizzly by mistake during a black bear only season?

 

[Ugly Sauce]

I’m unclear on what the issue is here with shooting a bear. Are you saying that this hunter shoot a grizzly by mistake during a black bear only season?

Yes, exactly.