HUNTERS: If the Brady Campaign doesn't stop you from hunting...

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Hey, we face death every day we manage to wake up. We face death every night we go to sleep.

Starving to death is the only alternative for some people in lieu of dying on the trail. Hell, a close call with a semi that jumps the median has to be a whole lot more stressful than even staring down the barrel in the hands of a criminal. Killing, gutting, and transporting game seems to me to be relaxing, and fulfilling as the accomplishment it is. I think it's a better way to put meat on the table than slaving away in some air tight, stuffed-shirt-infested office complex.

Woody
 
In a study of 25 middle-aged male deer hunters, researchers found that the activities inherent to hunting -- like walking over rough terrain, shooting an animal and dragging its carcass -- sent the men's heart rates up significantly.

In some cases, this led to potentially dangerous heart-rhythm disturbances, or diminished oxygen supply to the heart.
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So does sex...... die smiling.
 
In a study of 25 middle-aged male deer hunters, researchers found that the activities inherent to hunting -- like walking over rough terrain, shooting an animal and dragging its carcass -- sent the men's heart rates up significantly.
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That's the whole point, isn't it? The trick is to stay in some kind of shape ALL the time. At least get in a good walk.
 
"Dear" hunting? why would you bring a rifle?

You don't need a rifle when "dear" hunting at all!
I pack a small snubnosed when "Dear" hunting, but only for selfdefense
because "Dear" hunting sometimes involves going into bars, where other males are also "Dear" hunting and do not like the competition.

Of course I only hunt Dears that like fat slobs too!:evil::D

Has no one noticed this thread?
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=296596
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I have had a couple of heart issues, including one bypass, that all started prior to my 50th. I am in good physical shape, work out, keep the weight down, have never smoked cigarettes, etc.

I can tell you from experience that there is a big difference between the elevated heart rate you get from working out and the "Holy s#*t" boost you get from a big adrenelin slam. Hunting has always given me a big adrenelin rush, and while I don't let it stop me from hunting, I am always conscious of the potential problems I might run into.

As an aside, for all you children out there (from where I stand, that's anyone under forty) the day will come for you when you WILL see the elephant.
 
Dear hunting

OK, OK - so I can't spell today. Even so, I was thinking anybody who can risk sex should be able to risk deer hunting. So my spelling mistake of dear hunting isn't too far off.

I bet those same guys shouldn't be watching college football either!

As Jorg wrote:

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Doesn't the same thing apply to any physical activity that gets your heart rate up?
No, it doesn't and it even says that in the article:


In general, the researchers found, deer hunting put the men's hearts under more strain than the treadmill did. Ten men exceeded the maximum heart rate they logged on the treadmill, and several showed potentially dangerous heart responses to hunting that they did not show during the treadmill test.

Three men had signs of impeded blood flow to the heart during hunting, but not on the treadmill. Similarly, three of the men with heart disease had heart-rhythm abnormalities while hunting that did not show up on the treadmill test.


That was kind of the point of the article is that for whatever reason, the activity of deer hunting resulted in greater heart stress than the traditional treadmill tests that determine heart health and could result in dangerous conditions that has been previously missed.

Then again, with "deer" spelled wrong twice in the post that even has an article to help with the correct spelling, I'm not surprised that nuances of the research were overlooked.
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That's a load of crap Jorgie. Just because the the men put the treadmill on low so they can chat and watch TV and don't get their hearts pumping good doesn't invalidate any of my comments. It just proves that they are wasting their time on the treadmill.

I but there a lot of guys out there who have perfect spelling and who also sit down to take a whiz, and live their lives as wimps because their doctors and wives tell them to. Oh, sorry about the dangling preposition.
 
deer hunting is not so bad for your heart.

Killing a moose and then having to drag it miles back to the truck by yourself through thick brush, is bad for your heart.

Seriously, as to why anyone would do a study like this, I think it's a good idea for people to do very specific studies of a specific activity and see how it affects an outcome, rather than do a generic activity (like walking on a treadmill ) and try to draw conclusions that might not apply.

I talked to a family member who works in the Emergency room last month, and she had just seen someone who broke a leg falling out of a tree stand while deer hunting. And deer season isn't even in mid-july around here, it's in the fall.
 
That's a load of crap Jorgie. Just because the the men put the treadmill on low so they can chat and watch TV and don't get their hearts pumping good doesn't invalidate any of my comments. It just proves that they are wasting their time on the treadmill.
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Are you serious? Do you actually think this was about men walking slowly on treadmills at gyms where they could watch TV? They are talking about about treadmill stress test in a clinical enviroment to determine the health of one's heart. They found that their current testing doesn't stress the heart as much as hunting.
 
If they ever get bold enough to enact gun confiscation and send us all a letter saying we better turn them in, send this article back in reply and tell them that after you had read this article you went and turned in all of your guns at one of those gun buyback programs because you were concerned about preserving your own life by avoiding heart attacks while hunting. That ought to rattle their chains. :p
 
I find the article pointless and the result completely common sense. I don't need a "study" to tell me this. This is what our tax dollars pay for? Just try huffing up the side of a mountain if you aren't in shape and see how you feel. Hunting, Hiking, whatever...
 
That was kind of the point of the article is that for whatever reason, the activity of deer hunting resulted in greater heart stress than the traditional treadmill tests
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Thats not much of a surprise, walking on a treadmill really is not the ideal way to evaluate a persons physical fitness. The reason treadmill tests are used is because you are not going to get the internist or the cardiologist to
perform an exercise stress test of the heart anywhere but in an air conditioned office.

Walking is good exercise, it beats the bejeebers out of being a couch potato
but all it conditions you for is walking on a level and mildly inclined surface.
It does not get you in shape for strenuous physical activity such as hauling a hundred pounds of deer meat 5 miles.

For those who wish to get into physical shape for hunting etc forget the roadwork ( or the treadmill work). Go on a 10 mile hump, off road on uneven terrain with a 60+ pound backpack. That will simulate deer hunting much more effectively.
 
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