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Hunting with Non-Traditional Firearms

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by CountryUgly, Mar 2, 2012.

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  1. CountryUgly

    CountryUgly Member

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    My wife likes to deer hunt but she doesn't like recoil, heights, getting "scope eye", working a bolt or lever, taking a shot at anything over 100yrds, and/or being limited to a single shot. I love a good challenge and this was my solution. First I set up a ground blind on a 1/2 acre green field in a densely wooded area, this solved the shooting distance and heights issue. Now to resolve the gun issue. I bought a WASR 10/63 and ditched the wood furniture, iron sights, 30 round mag and barrel nut. I replaced all that with a 6 positon stock, quad rail w/ forward grip handle, a Simmons pistol scope w/ 14in eye relief on the q-rail, picked up a 5rd mag and capped the barrel off with a muzzle brake. Thankfully she loves the gun and her green field setup. The draw back is we keep catching grief for not hunting "traditionally" and it seems some people think deer hunting with an AK47 is taboo. I don't get it, she's legal the gun is accurate (generally less than 2in at 100yrds) she uses quality ammo not mil-surp and she thins out the doe population. I respect most everyone's opinion on here and would like to know do you all think this is people just being childish or did we really over step some boundry we didn't know about.
     
  2. Orkan

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    If they think what you guys did is taboo... they'd really hate me. ;)

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    Hunt for yourselves countryugly. Don't concern yourself with placating others. There will always be someone that thinks you are doing it wrong. Don't sweat it. Enjoy your time under God's creation and savor every second in the field with your family.
     
  3. NOLAEMT

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    I would tell them to go pound sand.

    I can't stand people who think that if you don't do something the way they do it, you are doing it wrong. As long as you hunt humanely it doesn't matter what you are shooting, be it a wood stocked model 70, or a SBR 300 blackout with suppressor. The deer die just as quickly and humanly.
     
  4. Art Eatman

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    I guess an appropriate response might be, "So? We're eating deer meat. Can't do that if you're not doing it right."

    Sounds like you know some folks who, if the IQ gets up to 50, oughta sell.
     
  5. Mamertine

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    The WASR isn't what I traditionally think of as a deer rifle, but I don't see why anyone would have a problem with it. Many people start out hunting with mil surplus. I don't really see how this is different.
     
  6. a-sheepdog

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    I would not be concerned with the opinions of others. As long as the rifle is accurate enough to make an ethical shot, I would say use what works for her provided its not against state law. I am glad to hear that she is a fellow hunter, congrats to her on her shooting skills and doe count.
     
  7. CountryUgly

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    You have shown me something new(the gun not the deer) what is it and where do I get one. That is just too cool.
     
  8. lizziedog1

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    Just remember, most of the guns that we use today started as military firearms. A bolt action is as military as any EBR.

    The liberal love folks making those comments. It helps them with divide and conquer strategies.
     
  9. Skyshot

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    It doesn't matter to the deer!
     
  10. Orkan

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    It's a DTA SRS. (desert tactical arms - stealth recon scout)

    Best precision rifle platform going if you ask me. I can swap calibers and retain zero within 1/2MOA or better in about a minute. Bullpup switch caliber bolt action. It's quite good.

    They have a stocking dealer network, or you can get one directly from DTA. Tell them I sent you. I'll be wrapping up a full review of that rifle in the next couple months. I've got several thousand rounds through it in 308, with about a thousand of 338LM.
     
  11. jmr40

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    Hunting is something we do for fun. As long as someone enjoys using a particular tool to kill their quarry I have no problem with them hunting with most anything. They can use a spear as long as they know how to use it and understand any shortcomings that tool may have as far as I'm concerned.
     
  12. MCgunner

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    I prefer a minie ball over about 90 grains equivalent of Pyrodex, myself. I'm not into tacticool. I prefer retro of late, my bolt guns and hunting handguns having been collecting dust. I do, however, have a scoped inline along with my two Hawken replicas. A 385 grain .50 caliber Minie ain't broke. It works fantastic on deer. I've about shunned all my modern rifles at this point for the BP thing. It's just more fun. I'll know I've gone loopy when I start wingshooting with a front loading shotgun. Ain't got there, yet, but do like my SxSs.

    Everyone has their thing. I have retroed, others go with ARs and such. It's all cool so long as you enjoy it. Even though it interferes with dove season, I see bow hunting in my future. :D
     
  13. Orkan

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    Don't do it. You'll be more broke and no other kind of hunting will ever be as satisfying ever again. ;)

    Doe about to have her heart shut down - 2011
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    145" - 2010
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    Cull buck - 2011
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    Nice big doe shot on video, with some forensic's at the end.
    http://youtu.be/nlT_m015gv4

    How about 2 doe out of the same tree, on the same morning?
    http://youtu.be/DiUJ-zB2cxc
     
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    If it is legal , has enough power to make humane kills and you stay with in it's working range go for it . I have a lot more problem with some jack wad with an uber-mag shooting half a box of shell at 100 yards on a bench off a lead sled 2 days before opening day then trying to take a 500 yard shot
    I hunted small game for a while with a smooth bore 9 mm muzzle loader musket I could reliably kill at 14 steps with shot and reliably hit at 22 steps with #00 buck patched with craft felt. out side those ranges I passed the shot. It took at least 75 shots at targets to come up with usable ranges
    Roy
     
  15. Patriot1/3

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    Time changes and so do some people. Tellm to mind their own business. Grand daddies shotgun is outdated and an ethical hunter will adapt to his or her specfic needs. People that condem are the ones that are ignorant to the fact,technology has been moving steadly forward and I choose to move with it. My arsonal includes heirlooms but,what I choose to hunt with is NO ONES business.
     
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    Well, I have bows, love to shoot 'em. I'm not real great, but good enough to make perhaps a 35 yard shot with my compound, MAYBE 40 in good light. My eye dominance problem hurts me as I shoot lefty, but can't do that with a bow. But, I ebayed a bow some time back for cheap, an older 60 lb Hoyt compound, and found I could do it. :D Problem is, it's dove season and I prefer wing shooting. Also, it's 100+ degrees out, 70 percent humidity is typical, and the skeeters are usually thick enough that you choke on 'em unless you breath through a bandana. I don't really enjoy being inactive in nature with those conditions. :D A bow hunt in 1974 down at Aransas NWR was about as miserable as I've ever been in the field. I can dress for cold, but I needed a mosquito net and they didn't have thermocells back then. I walked out of there 8 lbs lighter from all the blood I'd lost.

    We're planning a move and I'm trying to sell my coastal land and buy some hill country (way fewer mosquitos) land. There's WMAs up there that are bow only, too. I can see that I might just get into it soon as I'm off the mosquito bitten coast. At least when you're dove hunting, you can slap yourself. :D
     
  17. Orkan

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    I hear that.

    Up here in SD we've got some mosquito's the size of sparrows. They really tiresome.
     
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    If they dislike her hunting gear they are really gonna hate mine. Spent all afternoon making arrow/spears to shoot out of my potato cannon. Still working up an accuracy load. Cant wait to get in my ground blind and spear me a hog. Feel free to send them a copy of this so they know how good they really have it.
    Be proud to have her as a hunting buddy and good on you for finding something she's happy with. My wife is my fishing buddy and I taylor both the trips and the gear for her enjoyment. If someone doesnt like the way we do things they are most welcome to swim home.
    T
     
  19. svtruth

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    Isn't the

    7.62x39 comparable to the 30-30?
     
  20. Orkan

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    Pretty close.
     
  21. Freedom_fighter_in_IL

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    Ballistics make them darn near twins.
     
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    If they have anything other than a spear in their hands while covered in mud giving you guff, I'd tell them to f off.

    Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
     
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    CountryUgly,

    The only problem that I have with your new hunting rifle is that you didn't post pictures of it. :evil:

    Chris "The Kayak-Man" Johnson
     
  24. SimplyChad

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    Only when comparing a 123 gr projectile to a 170 gr.
     
  25. Art Eatman

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    SimplyChad, as near as I can tell from reading several hundred posts for over a dozen years, now, they are about equal for effectiveness out to around 150 yards.
     
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