I am curious about your rifle triggers. Do you...

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have the triggers adjusted on the rifles you buy or do you leave them the way they are when you purchase them?

If so what lbs do you have them adjusted too?

Do you replace them?

If so what type of trigger do you have put on them?

Do you have all your rifle triggers adjusted to have the exact same lbs pull?

For those that have the triggers replaced or adjusted when or what caused you to have your triggers adjusted?

How much more accurately can you shoot the rifles that you have had the triggers adjusted on verses those that you do not?

I guess I am wondering if it is just me or do you all also believe trigger pull has enormous value in shooting accurately and doing so consistently?
 
Do you have the triggers adjusted on the rifles you buy or do you leave them the way they are when you purchase them?

I guess it depends on the rifle and the trigger, but I have replaced, had replaced and adjusted or had adjusted almost every trigger.

If so what lbs do you have them adjusted too?

a little over 3 lbs.

Do you replace them?

If I am up to it. Some of the "drop ins" are not really drop ins and require a little metalwork. I can do a little otherwise off to the gunshop

If so what type of trigger do you have put on them?

Brooks in my CZ 452 and I have used and like Timney in some centerfires

Do you have all your rifle triggers adjusted to have the exact same lbs pull?

Nope, one of my .22s is real light, but I don't hunt with it. The rest are between 3 and 3 1/2 lbs.

For those that have the triggers replaced or adjusted when or what caused you to have your triggers adjusted?

Having an unadjustable trigger mostly

How much more accurately can you shoot the rifles that you have had the triggers adjusted on verses those that you do not?

Depends, but overall a rifle with a trigger that breaks cleanly at a decent weight allows me to shoot slightly better.

I guess I am wondering if it is just me or do you all also believe trigger pull has enormous value in shooting accurately and doing so consistently?

I do to a point, but if you are familiar with the trigger, you can still shoot accurately if you have the fundamentals down.
 
I guess I am wondering if it is just me or do you all also believe trigger pull has enormous value in shooting accurately and doing so consistently?

You are right about the importance of trigger pull.
Although there are a whole host of important factors in accurate shooting, none of them amount to a hill of beans if someone has a sloppy or jerky trigger pull. That being said, usually trigger pull problems reside in the shooter, not the rifle. I guess what I'm trying to say is better equipment is nice, but equipment does not make the shooter.

I usually leave my triggers alone. I've not yet run into any triggers that were so bad that I had to replace them to shoot accurately. Of course I could think of some exceptions to all of this, but generally speaking, no I don't see a need in replacing or adjusting triggers on my rifles.


JMHO.

Jason
 
My M14s have military 2-stage triggers, I make sure the 2nd stage breaks crisply @ 4.5 lbs.
My AR has a Geissele DMR 2-stage trigger with a 2nd stage that breaks at about 1.5 lbs.
The rest of my collection has factory original triggers.
 
I have never adjusted, replaced, etc.. .any trigger on any rifle, shotgun or handgun that I own or have ever owned. Adapt and over come. And yes, I'm a pretty good shot. I figure it's not the trigger, it's the person pulling the trigger that needs to adjust - just my opinion.
 
I just did a little polish job on the new PSL-54C I got yesterday. It has a two stage trigger and after the polish job, a good clean break and smooth travel.

I had a hell of time with that blasted Sheppard's crook as well! I wish I had ordered the metal plate that replaces that little piece of wire but I wanted to get the rifle back together so I could shoot it today and it ended up raining anyways. :p

I've fooled with most of the triggers on my rifles. Mainly just putting a mirror polish on the engagement surfaces not changing angles. I did put an adjustable trigger in another AKM type rifle.

A good clean, smooth pull and a crisp breaking trigger does help. That why I sold off a couple SKS rifles I had. Horrible triggers that I didn't even want to attempt to fix.
 
if they are less than, or very close to three pounds, i leave them alone. if it has a pull of over three pounds, i either adjust it, or take it to a gunsmith to have a trigger job done to it. so far, i have not have had to replace any trigger assemblys. but there is always a first time. when i adjust a trigger, i try to get it as close to two pounds as i can. most of my rifles are in the two to three pound range, except one (7lbs,8 oz), which is headed for the gunsmith. also, if there is to much creep, i will file-hone-grind- whatever it takes to get rid of the majority of it. one rifle i have required welding. eventually, that rifle will have a problem, and it will have to be fixed professionally. but i did it when i was young, and it has held up fine for over 20 years. cant complain to much about that.
 
My hunting rifles always get a trigger job. I like 3-3.5 pounds with a clean break, although a slight, predictable roll is okay too. I generally do not replace triggers as I find that a decent gunsmith can turn out a good trigger with any of today's factory rifles.

I have a cheap slide action .22 that I have not had adjusted, simply because it's so inaccurate that the trigger doesn't matter.

And I have some dangerous game rifles with trigger weights of 4-5 pounds. Traditionally this is done with the idea that you don't want to let your adrenalin rush cause a premature shot. Mine are unlikely to ever be pointed at any of the big five, but I always try to honor traditions. Anyway, I tend to shoot those rifles by closing my eyes and yanking the trigger, so it doesn't really matter how good the trigger is.

On the whole I am kind of a trigger snob, but to be completely honest, I'm not sure how much it really matters. Of course a truly awful trigger makes things harder than they need to be -- and handgun triggers are a whole different story -- but in general I think stock rifle triggers are good enough for most purposes.
 
And I have some dangerous game rifles with trigger weights of 4-5 pounds....Anyway, I tend to shoot those rifles by closing my eyes and yanking the trigger, so it doesn't really matter how good the trigger is.

:D:D
 
Replace: Chip McCormick Super Match trigger.

For my Remington R-25, I've ordered an AR Gold. Looks safer, thanks to the intercepting sear. If it works well, I'll get a second one for the Noveske, and move the Chip to my S&W MP15.
 
I guess I am wondering if it is just me or do you all also believe trigger pull has enormous value in shooting accurately and doing so consistently?

For target rifles, I have paid hundreds of dollars for trigger mechanisms that provide clean consistent pulls, without the risk of a trigger override.

As for pull weight, my fingers are not as sensitive as others, I will accidentally trip triggers that are less than 2.5 pounds in during rapid fire. One bud of mine, a long range champion, he uses an 8 ounce trigger when shooting prone long range.

I have shot lots of High Master scores with triggers that were between 4.5 and 4.75 pounds. As long as the trigger geometry is correct, and the trigger pull is clean, you can shoot very good scores with triggers in this weight range.

For hunting rifles, I don't want a trigger weight less than 3.0 pounds. The colder it gets, the harder it is to feel a trigger.

Six and seven pound triggers are too heavy to shoot well. You end up moving the rifle before the trigger breaks.
 
I guess I am wondering if it is just me or do you all also believe trigger pull has enormous value in shooting accurately and doing so consistently?
That is a very relative question. A factory 8lb trigger is a non issue if you are elk or even deer hunting in timber. This would allow you to hit a paper plate at ~250 yards easily, which for a majority of hunting situations is just fine. For target shooting, I personally think a trigger job (esp. if the factory one is bad) is one of the cheapest accuracy improvements going. Technically, it doesn't increase accuracy at all, but the reality is most people will shoot much better with a 2.5 lb trigger that breaks like glass vs. some of the 7-8lb with lots of creep that come from the factory. My remington 5r had a horrible trigger pull when I got it, still shot around .9 moa. $62.50 at my local smith and now if I shoot a group over .5moa I'm pissed. you can certainly shoot OK, or even well, with a heavy trigger, but for less than $100 you can make life alot easier on yourself. Hell the older remington and winchester triggers I adjust to 3lbs myself for free, and to call me
"not mechanically inclined" would be an understatement.
 
I had a gunsmith work the trigger on my beautiful Remington 700 ADL .30-06. Then during that season's deer hunt as I was unloading cartridges, I got a slamfire (as near as I can tell) that almost took off my thumb. I took the gun back and had it redone to factory specs and then sold the gun. The guy that owns it now, loves it and he got it for a great price. (BTW, the gun was not damaged in any way, and I was practicing safe handling proceedures when it accidentally discharged - but it spooked the Hell outa me!)
 
Either my rifles came with a trigger i wanted on them, or i can't change it, there are no replacements out there:( So, i have never replaced a trigger, or done any work on them. My rifles are set on about 3lb-4lb, depending on which one....
 
I try to buy rifles that come with adjustable triggers from the factory. That way I can adjust them myself down to desired pull weight, and take up.

Unfortunately that has meant that I pretty much don't buy US made firearms, although I understand that some US makers are now trying to put decent triggers back in their products.
 
Not counting shotguns, I believe I own 1 gun (rifle or pistol) that I haven't improved the trigger pull on in one way or another--polishing, adjusting, changing springs, replacing, etc. The one I haven't is an old Savage 99 that I can't figure out or get info on how to improve (any help out there?). I even improved the trigger on my trap shotgun, but not hunting shotguns.
 
I can adjust them myself down to desired pull weight, and take up.

Unfortunately that has meant that I pretty much don't buy US made firearms,

Huh?
Rugers have always been notriously hard to adjust for the average guy, but Savage is easy, Remington was very easy(haven't messed with new x-mark yet, my smith did the one I have and said they are simple), winchester is easy. So European triggers like SAko etc...are easier that winchester or remmy?
 
Quick Easy Fix, Time & Money, or Just Time?

Sorry!
 
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on my hard use guns, ie my ar and ak i leave them the way that they come. a precision rifle i will have adjusted to what i want, but that is done by me or a gunsmith. i don't have a need for an all new trigger.
 
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