VirgilCaine
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Gasoline...spoils?
I did not know that.
I am Legend...
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Gasoline...spoils?
I did not know that.
Thin Black Line
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Maybe he was an Army Reserve medical officer ordered to AD....
macadore
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Gasoline exposed to air evaporates and leaves residue. Condensation can also happen in stored gasoline tanks. Detergents and additives like Berryman B12 help dissipate the residue and water.
The only two things that I didn't like about it were the entirely different (from the book) ending and the crappy CGI. Still, it was worth seeing.
One quick question: what was the movie rated (as in MPAA rating)? I'm pretty sure that the ads I saw said that it was rated "PG-13", but the local theater had it listed as an "R" film, which kind of confused me...
One quick question: what was the movie rated (as in MPAA rating)? I'm pretty sure that the ads I saw said that it was rated "PG-13", but the local theater had it listed as an "R" film, which kind of confused me...
Havegunjoe
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I saw it and I can say it was, OK. I personally like The Omega Man better. This version left a lot of little things asked but unanswered in my mind. Also, NEVER KILL THE DOG. I am a dog lover and do not like to see them hurt in movies. I decided that years ago as a kid when I saw Old Yeller. In the Omega Man Heston was trying to kill the creatures, he would hunt them by day. I didn't seem to get that from this version, he was just trying to cure them. It seemed senseless to try and make these mindless creatures understand this to me.
ServiceSoon
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That is why I gave it a 7 instead of an 8.
alan
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I wonder as to where the young woman and child came from. I might have sneezed or something, however it seems that that point was not clarified.
Aside from some technical quibles, it was an interesting film. I wonder as to whether or not it turns out that the book was better, as is sometimes/often the case.
Aside from some technical quibles, it was an interesting film. I wonder as to whether or not it turns out that the book was better, as is sometimes/often the case.
bdjansen
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I loved this movie! And I am very hard to please.
As for people who complain about the CGI, I thought they did a great job. The big money was not on the monsters. It was about making the city look the way it did. They created a world that I believed in and that is what counts. Very few movies can get that part right.
In the begining of this thread somebody asked why he kept covering up his light on the gun. The reason was because the light would wake the monsters. And he really didn't want to do that. Remember that shot where he turns the corner and they are all standing in that room asleep? That was one of my favorite shots.
As for people who complain about the CGI, I thought they did a great job. The big money was not on the monsters. It was about making the city look the way it did. They created a world that I believed in and that is what counts. Very few movies can get that part right.
In the begining of this thread somebody asked why he kept covering up his light on the gun. The reason was because the light would wake the monsters. And he really didn't want to do that. Remember that shot where he turns the corner and they are all standing in that room asleep? That was one of my favorite shots.
SPOILERS BELOW
A couple of things stand out to me. First, several scenes used in commercials clearly were not incorporated in the movie. This tells me that scenes were added after test audiences objected to the original cut.
That leads to the Mustang. He's zipping through the city in a shiny clean and waxed 'stang, taking perilous detours under construction scaffolding using his obvious perfect mental map of the city streets to avoid stalled/abandoned cars and roadblocks to hunt deer? Not a very smart move for a survivor. And then after that the Mustang is never seen again. He goes back to driving his survivor-mobile which is (realistically) completely grimed up. This tells me that the Mustang scene was an add on to sex up the beginning.
At several points I thought the movie was going to go into "kill 'em all" mode. With WS going all Davy Crockett at the Alamo. Last man standing and all that. But with the addition of the woman and the child that's not really possible. You can't John Wayne until the woman and child are safe. And who makes thermo-nuclear hand grenades? Why didn't he get in the crawlspace and hold the door open, when lead infected breaks through the safety glass let the spoon fly, flip the grenade and pull the door shut?
He quotes his philosophy expressed by Bob Marley about not giving up on trying to make the world a better place and then he gives up and suicides. Does not compute.
I think the original cut was probably too dark and ended on a downer. The movie was probably revised to make it a little happier after test audiences panned it. I think they wanted to emphasize Neville's growing isolation, his despondency over losing his best friend and his inability to find a cure. I just don't think the screenwriter/director were up to it. WS was good enough to get those things across.
I'll give the movie a 5/10. Low grade CGI, plot holes big enough to drive a Bradley through them (until you run out of gas and break down), and inconsistent characterization.
A couple of things stand out to me. First, several scenes used in commercials clearly were not incorporated in the movie. This tells me that scenes were added after test audiences objected to the original cut.
That leads to the Mustang. He's zipping through the city in a shiny clean and waxed 'stang, taking perilous detours under construction scaffolding using his obvious perfect mental map of the city streets to avoid stalled/abandoned cars and roadblocks to hunt deer? Not a very smart move for a survivor. And then after that the Mustang is never seen again. He goes back to driving his survivor-mobile which is (realistically) completely grimed up. This tells me that the Mustang scene was an add on to sex up the beginning.
At several points I thought the movie was going to go into "kill 'em all" mode. With WS going all Davy Crockett at the Alamo. Last man standing and all that. But with the addition of the woman and the child that's not really possible. You can't John Wayne until the woman and child are safe. And who makes thermo-nuclear hand grenades? Why didn't he get in the crawlspace and hold the door open, when lead infected breaks through the safety glass let the spoon fly, flip the grenade and pull the door shut?
He quotes his philosophy expressed by Bob Marley about not giving up on trying to make the world a better place and then he gives up and suicides. Does not compute.
I think the original cut was probably too dark and ended on a downer. The movie was probably revised to make it a little happier after test audiences panned it. I think they wanted to emphasize Neville's growing isolation, his despondency over losing his best friend and his inability to find a cure. I just don't think the screenwriter/director were up to it. WS was good enough to get those things across.
I'll give the movie a 5/10. Low grade CGI, plot holes big enough to drive a Bradley through them (until you run out of gas and break down), and inconsistent characterization.
Bones11b
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Note to self, pick up Craw next time SHTF
wheelgunslinger
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Craw's knowledge is impressive.
This movie can be picked apart, but it essentially drives home the gyst of Heinlein's quote about how specialization is for insects.
If you're going to survive apocalypse, SHTF, Hurricanes, Drought, Zombies, or whatever, best to be a well rounded person. Much like the character Will played.
This movie can be picked apart, but it essentially drives home the gyst of Heinlein's quote about how specialization is for insects.
If you're going to survive apocalypse, SHTF, Hurricanes, Drought, Zombies, or whatever, best to be a well rounded person. Much like the character Will played.
Silvanus
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I saw the movie yesterday. I liked it. But I have a question: did the main character even once hit something with his m4? Pretty pathetic for a soldier
As far as his "arsenal" goes, some people are complaining that it wasn't enough guns. He had M4s, several handguns and I'm pretty sure I saw an M249 in the closet. IMO that's more than enough.
As far as his "arsenal" goes, some people are complaining that it wasn't enough guns. He had M4s, several handguns and I'm pretty sure I saw an M249 in the closet. IMO that's more than enough.
I liked it.
Why does the doggy always die!!!!!
After that scene, I would be nuking the world.
Anyone pick out the correlation between hunting deer and the dark seekers? This isn't about being the last man on earth, it's about surviving. Everyone was just trying to survive.
Why does the doggy always die
!!!!!After that scene, I would be nuking the world.
Anyone pick out the correlation between hunting deer and the dark seekers? This isn't about being the last man on earth, it's about surviving. Everyone was just trying to survive.
General Geoff
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If I were the main character in that movie, and my dog just died in my arms, I'd have waited till dawn, driven to the nearest known military arms depot, and gone medieval on their ass.
Sure, modern nuclear weapons are probably near-impossible for a civilian to detonate on short notice, but with enough time and reading, anything's possible.
Sure, modern nuclear weapons are probably near-impossible for a civilian to detonate on short notice, but with enough time and reading, anything's possible.
Lone_Gunman
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I would have shot the dog while immediately after it had been bit by the infected dog. I never understood why it took them so long to decide to kill Old Yeller.
S&WKING
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awsome show awsome gun even with out night optics and great zombies kinda sad with the dog and the ending and his family dyeing
i dont think that they were asleep i think they were all eating something with all the noise they made just like the one all alone he was eating to
yea they drove the car there but didnt the bridge get blown up in the flash back that confuses me
i dont think that they were asleep i think they were all eating something with all the noise they made just like the one all alone he was eating to
yea they drove the car there but didnt the bridge get blown up in the flash back that confuses me
silverlance
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the movie was a solid 8.5-9 all the way up until the "oh crap we have only 12 minutes of film left, let's hurry up and finish this" ending.
EVERYTHING made sense in context once you understand that willie is damn borderline insane due to prolonged isolation and stress and that his wife seems to be quite successful finanically.
as for the darkseekers all being super, well, that's part of the movie and should be acceptable.
my ONLY problem is that they had a VERY good "willie realizes that he is now the monster and that the DS'es are the normal race" twist but then they just abandoned it. it is PAINFULLY obvious that that is where the movie is going.. it is abundantly clear that the darkseeker attack is personal, and driven by the zombie who lost his girl to willie's lab.
EVERYTHING made sense in context once you understand that willie is damn borderline insane due to prolonged isolation and stress and that his wife seems to be quite successful finanically.
as for the darkseekers all being super, well, that's part of the movie and should be acceptable.
my ONLY problem is that they had a VERY good "willie realizes that he is now the monster and that the DS'es are the normal race" twist but then they just abandoned it. it is PAINFULLY obvious that that is where the movie is going.. it is abundantly clear that the darkseeker attack is personal, and driven by the zombie who lost his girl to willie's lab.
Chillywilly
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***Spoilers****
While it maybe true that the initial blast from a fragmentation grenade may not of destroyed everything in the room (I wouldn't hazzard to guess not having thrown one.), there are plenty of substances in a standard medical lab to cause all sorts of unpleasantness (i.e. alcohols, ethers). Add a oxygen rich environment and tada. A Grad student chemist nearby just recently nar done blowed 'imself up doing something fairly routine (I believe it was pouring ether). Supposedly the door Will put the woman and child was a safe. I am guessing it was more than a gun safe with 12 gauge walls. But then I think this is over analyzing a zombie movie.
They were originally from Lisbon. They got on a temporary ship that was stationed off shore to avoid the virus. It is inferred from conversation that the ship became permanent and they had to take on supplies whereupon the crew got infected. At that point there is some hand waving as she had stated earlier that they were from Maryland (as I recall) on their way to the mountain retreat/colony in Vermont. Apparently the Darkseakers aren't much into skiing.
While it maybe true that the initial blast from a fragmentation grenade may not of destroyed everything in the room (I wouldn't hazzard to guess not having thrown one.), there are plenty of substances in a standard medical lab to cause all sorts of unpleasantness (i.e. alcohols, ethers). Add a oxygen rich environment and tada. A Grad student chemist nearby just recently nar done blowed 'imself up doing something fairly routine (I believe it was pouring ether). Supposedly the door Will put the woman and child was a safe. I am guessing it was more than a gun safe with 12 gauge walls. But then I think this is over analyzing a zombie movie.
They were originally from Lisbon. They got on a temporary ship that was stationed off shore to avoid the virus. It is inferred from conversation that the ship became permanent and they had to take on supplies whereupon the crew got infected. At that point there is some hand waving as she had stated earlier that they were from Maryland (as I recall) on their way to the mountain retreat/colony in Vermont. Apparently the Darkseakers aren't much into skiing.
Silvanus
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Oh and I forgot to say, it's funny how in every movie where the main character is a muscular guy, there's a "work-out scene"
furyalecto
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I thought it was better than the Omega Man & The Last Man on Earth.
The Omega Man was made in the 70's & it seemed like a very heavy 70's groove. Charlton was a good Neville, but I liked Will a bit more.
I can only imagine Vincent Price of the Last Man on Earth doing the pullups. He is the least physical actor I believe I have ever seen. It seriously detracted from that movie.
Pretty good movie, but not in my top 100.
The Omega Man was made in the 70's & it seemed like a very heavy 70's groove. Charlton was a good Neville, but I liked Will a bit more.
I can only imagine Vincent Price of the Last Man on Earth doing the pullups. He is the least physical actor I believe I have ever seen. It seriously detracted from that movie.
Pretty good movie, but not in my top 100.
Movie was pretty good but the book is better and about vampires, and he was a legend because he would kill them by day. But I kind of liked the virus idea, although confusing, but I caught that right away that maybe it is not such a good idea to use a bad virus to find a cure for cancer only because nature has a way of making humans look pretty stupid (i.e. duh mutations). Heed Warning/Read here maybe fact from fiction? http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/20/474428.aspx Arnold Governator Schwarzenegger was cast to be in the movie years ago but the deal fell through. Being a deer hunter and realizing that deer would probably adapt from the suburban to urban areas, I don't think they would hang out in those numbers right there in the city, wouldn't they be better off in and around Central Park? 30 Days of Night was pretty good too it was an adaptation of the graphic novel series. But in reality it would be more like 63 days of night. Now everyone go out and adopt some shelter dogs, you won't believe how many full bred German Shepherds end up there.
strangelittleman
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I hear a lot of whining about every facet of this movie, ie; wah! he didn't use such-n-such gun, why did they show him working out, he only had one mag, etc.etc.
So, for all you "Goldielocks" ( Oh! it's too cold/Oh! it's too hot, etc.)
A. He most likely (at least initially at the on-set of massive social disorder)
foraged for his weapons as he did all his supplies. So of course "beggars
can't be choosers" He grabbed what he could. He's a Medical Corps
Officer, not a S.F.super cool killer dude, so he's not going to be a super
tactical "death, upright on two feet" any and everybody screws up, gets
bored, etc.
B. If the movie didn't show him staying in shape, you all would be squawking
about why he was in such good shape, but never seemed to work out.
C.Who says he didn't have a few spare mags (and perhaps a sidearm)in the
" Jack Bauer man-purse" he had on his left side for a lot of the movie.
D. This was a man that was on the raggedy edge of sanity, thus not all of his
actions were going to be rational on his best day. Besides he's feeling like
hunted prey. Being hunted by superior numbers who have higher
mobility truly sucks to a high degree and greatly adds a lot of pressure to
every decision one makes, thus one is apt to make more mistakes.
E.( And most important) It's not a "how to" guide or documentary, "The end
of the world, and how I stopped worrying and learned to love it!" IT'S
ONLY A MOVIE! It's there to entertain you and let you escape the world
for a couple of hours! Relax and enjoy it, Goldielocks!!!!
So, for all you "Goldielocks" ( Oh! it's too cold/Oh! it's too hot, etc.)
A. He most likely (at least initially at the on-set of massive social disorder)
foraged for his weapons as he did all his supplies. So of course "beggars
can't be choosers" He grabbed what he could. He's a Medical Corps
Officer, not a S.F.super cool killer dude, so he's not going to be a super
tactical "death, upright on two feet" any and everybody screws up, gets
bored, etc.
B. If the movie didn't show him staying in shape, you all would be squawking
about why he was in such good shape, but never seemed to work out.
C.Who says he didn't have a few spare mags (and perhaps a sidearm)in the
" Jack Bauer man-purse" he had on his left side for a lot of the movie.
D. This was a man that was on the raggedy edge of sanity, thus not all of his
actions were going to be rational on his best day. Besides he's feeling like
hunted prey. Being hunted by superior numbers who have higher
mobility truly sucks to a high degree and greatly adds a lot of pressure to
every decision one makes, thus one is apt to make more mistakes.
E.( And most important) It's not a "how to" guide or documentary, "The end
of the world, and how I stopped worrying and learned to love it!" IT'S
ONLY A MOVIE! It's there to entertain you and let you escape the world
for a couple of hours! Relax and enjoy it, Goldielocks!!!!
Silvanus
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Calm down, I was just commenting on that because it's the same in every movie and it made me laugh. I know that it makes a lot sense in this movie, but I found it funny anyway.
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