I did a side by side by side gun comparison today

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I got away to the range for a bit to shoot my EDC Ruger LC9, Kimber Micro 9 and a newly acquired Glock 43X together to see which 9mm shoots better for me. The only ammo I had in sufficient quantity to burn was Winchester white box 115 gr FMJ.

I shot each gun cold, using 50- meter small bore bullseye targets at 8 yards, two-hand standing. I first fired 15 shots to sight in at one target, then two targets with 10 shots each at about a 1-shot per two-second clip, then a final target as deliberately as I could. Not super scientific, but it approximates not “warming up” with the gun before a CCW shooting and is at the extreme edge of most CCW encounters.

LC 9:

I’ve had this NRA-branded Ruger pistol for several years, it’s my regular EDC gun when I’m not working. Since the LC9 has been out for years there is no need to go into detail other than it is not the LC9s striker version, rather it has the original long DAO style trigger. My only modification involved painting the front sight white-then-orange with Testors model paints.

I’ve always liked the size-power-carry ability of the LC9, but I dread trying to shoot with any sort of precision with it. My results bear this out, as I missed the bull a few times shooting with any sort of speed. Most of this was my fault, as I flinched a bit down-left waiting for the sear to finally release. With this gun 2 was first, then a rapid 1,3 and a deliberate 4.

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Kimber Micro 9:

This is only the second time I’ve shot this little 1911 styled gun and I like it a lot. The SA trigger is no Gold Cup quality trigger, but it is worlds better than the original LC9’s trigger. That, and great big white dot sights, made this gun shoot pretty well for me. The rubbery grips give a decent hold, but with no finger-hook on the Mag plate or checkering on the front strap this little pistol shifted a bit in my hands when firing quickly. Some shots went low as I tried to adjust while keeping up the cadence. It also has a true “6-o’clock” hold, so my first shots often went high before I adjusted to the classic bullseye sight-target picture. Targets went 2, then a rapid 1, 4 and a deliberate 3.

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Glock 43X MOS:

This is a bit of an unfair test, as the 43X is a bit larger with a 10+1 capacity in a larger grip frame than the other two have. I bought this as a future replacement for my Glock 34, since I’m an administrator now rather than going into the field anymore. Packing a full sized pistol and spare ammo to my 100% desk-bound job is wearing on my back, so the lighter more compact 43X still allows 21 rounds on my belt but doesn’t weigh me down or dig into my ribs as much when I’m seated. (At 53 I finally realized it’s a young mans game :().

We have the stubby Glock 26’s that I could issue myself, but I’m not a fan of the fat-abbreviated grip on those pistols. The G-43X has a grip that fits me very well. I’m not planning on a compact dot sight, but if I choose to the G-43X is ready for one.

I’ve shot Glocks for years so I shot this gun cold, it’s the first time out of the box and to the range with it. My second shot caught me by surprise and went way low, then I settled down. I shot at 2, then a rapid 1, 4 and a deliberate 3. (After the Ruger I was catching myself firing a touch early on occasion like on #2 and #3.)


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After this round of bullseyes I had four silhouettes left in my target carrier, so I put them up at 10 yards and fired at a 1 shot per second clip for 30 rounds each:

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Both the Kimber and the Glock kept shots close to the central ring. The Ruger, handicapped by the trigger, kept them in the vitals but were scattered about a lot more.

My final target was fired DA at 10 yds with my 6” Model 14 and .38 Wadcutters over 2.7 gr Bullseye. A rather unfair comparison, those two make a sweet combo!

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All in all, the three different trigger modes certainly showed me which ones I shoot best. I wasn’t bouncing bullets off the roof or the walls with the LC9, but should some sort of precision be required it’ll take a lot more effort on my part to make such a shot.

I’m looking forward to the switch from the G-34 to the G-43X, wearing the 43X for 11 hours a day should make the old spine a bit less crabby. I ordered a Safariland paddle for it, once it comes in I’ll take the duty qualification course and swap it out. As for my EDC, I’m done carrying the LC9. I believe I will keep the G-43X in that role as well, so I have one trigger system to master rather than go to the SA Kimber system.

Stay safe.
 

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Excellent comparison, thanks for taking the time to post. Glock 43x seems like the winner for me.
I was surprised how nicely it fit my medium-sized hands. I bought it sight unseen and I am really happy with it.

I came home and found a spring kit I ordered from Ghost had arrived, I’m going to put in a 4lb striker spring (replacing the stock 6lb spring) which should bring the trigger pull down a pound or two from stock.

Stay safe.
 
Your results with the Ruger do not surprise me; I would have done no better , probably worse. (I dislike the term "belly gun" , but ...)

The edge of Glock over Kimber does surprise me. I attribute that to the curved backstrap. If I look at the human hand and a straight backstrap , it makes no sense to me. There is no straight section in the hand.

Shooting a S&W 14 from 10 yards is cheating. You should have held the revolver in the wrong hand and closed your eyes to make it challenging.

Thanks for giving us something to chew on , on this winter day.
 
Very nice comparison. I've been close to buying a 43x/48 on a few occasions, I already carry a 19 every day and it's slimmer and lighter and still fits my hands nicely (not too skinny like the 365/365xl) to shoot well.

I bet that 43x will be a wonder on your belt all day over the 34!
 
Excellent write up!

I went through sort of the same thing when I was searching for carry pistols. Long story short, I settled on the Kahr CW9, their 'full-sized' poly striker pistol. It DID take some trial and error getting used to the trigger and how best to handle it. Because of that, I rarely carry a 1911 anymore... because of the significant differences in trigger manipulation, certainly magnified at a high-stress event. I'm a pretty good shot, now, with the CW9, I've gotten to where I can draw and present it well.

Your comment about the Kimber is interesting as well. My first CW9 went missing for a while (about 8 years...) and I had to rush out and fill the hole in the holster, so to speak. This was during the first Dark Age, when firearms were in short supply... I took what I could find... the last Kahr they had... a CM9, one round shorter, and .5" off the barrel, but otherwise the same pistol as the CM9. Man, what a difference that made! Just not being able to grip the pistol with my pinky makes a huge difference in being able to draw and present the pistol, let alone shoot it accurately in a high-stress event. Even in target shooting, I shot low because the shorter grip rotated into my palm. Swap the 6-round magazine for a 7... where my pinky could get hold of it... and I'm right back to target. It was something I had never experienced prior.

We have the stubby Glock 26’s that I could issue myself, but I’m not a fan of the fat-abbreviated grip on those pistols.

My first exposure to the Glock was a friend's Glock .40 compact (I don't know the numbers, but 27 comes to mind.) Not only was it a handful, but there was something wrong with the trigger (I didn't know that then, however, I thought that was the Glock Trigger everyone raved about.) That first range session with his Glop was my last... I hated Glocks, and I hated the .40 S&W after that. It wasn't until years later, my friend traded off that pistol, and bought a new G17 that I started to come around on Glocks. When they introduced the compact .380, and then the 43/43X, I considered giving one a try... but I'm still not a fan of Glock triggers, and I don't want to have to re-outfit for a new platform.
 
Your results with the Ruger do not surprise me; I would have done no better , probably worse. (I dislike the term "belly gun" , but ...)

The edge of Glock over Kimber does surprise me. I attribute that to the curved backstrap. If I look at the human hand and a straight backstrap , it makes no sense to me. There is no straight section in the hand.

Shooting a S&W 14 from 10 yards is cheating. You should have held the revolver in the wrong hand and closed your eyes to make it challenging.

Thanks for giving us something to chew on , on this winter day.
Yeah, the Model 14 is a bit of ringer in this comparison... it has been a while since I took it out and played with it so I thought I’d toss that into the post. :)

As nice as it shoots my late-1930’s era Colt Officers Model Heavy Barrel with a King gunsmithing treatment is even better in my hands at putting wadcutters into small groups. The way those Colt craftsmen put those guns together back then, and the “smiths like King who worked on them to make them even better, is truly amazing. :thumbup:

Stay safe.
 
Excellent write up!

I went through sort of the same thing when I was searching for carry pistols. Long story short, I settled on the Kahr CW9, their 'full-sized' poly striker pistol. It DID take some trial and error getting used to the trigger and how best to handle it. Because of that, I rarely carry a 1911 anymore... because of the significant differences in trigger manipulation, certainly magnified at a high-stress event. I'm a pretty good shot, now, with the CW9, I've gotten to where I can draw and present it well.

Your comment about the Kimber is interesting as well. My first CW9 went missing for a while (about 8 years...) and I had to rush out and fill the hole in the holster, so to speak. This was during the first Dark Age, when firearms were in short supply... I took what I could find... the last Kahr they had... a CM9, one round shorter, and .5" off the barrel, but otherwise the same pistol as the CM9. Man, what a difference that made! Just not being able to grip the pistol with my pinky makes a huge difference in being able to draw and present the pistol, let alone shoot it accurately in a high-stress event. Even in target shooting, I shot low because the shorter grip rotated into my palm. Swap the 6-round magazine for a 7... where my pinky could get hold of it... and I'm right back to target. It was something I had never experienced prior.



My first exposure to the Glock was a friend's Glock .40 compact (I don't know the numbers, but 27 comes to mind.) Not only was it a handful, but there was something wrong with the trigger (I didn't know that then, however, I thought that was the Glock Trigger everyone raved about.) That first range session with his Glop was my last... I hated Glocks, and I hated the .40 S&W after that. It wasn't until years later, my friend traded off that pistol, and bought a new G17 that I started to come around on Glocks. When they introduced the compact .380, and then the 43/43X, I considered giving one a try... but I'm still not a fan of Glock triggers, and I don't want to have to re-outfit for a new platform.
One of our previous administrators carried a Kahr CW9 in the same role I’m now in for the same reason I plan on switching sidearms. He swore by the Kahr and really liked it. Sadly I never got a chance to shoot it, so I don’t have a real world comparison outside of the positive reviews so many people post of theirs. I’m thinking once COVID-mania slacks off I will need to head to the retailer he used and check the Kahr line out (I haven’t been in that store before so it gives me another excuse :thumbup:. My usual gun store haunts aren’t Kahr retailers.)

We did have a previous admin guy years ago who went to a PPK/s .380 for duty use. To me that’s too far a step down in power and capacity (and in the case of my previous Manhurin PPK/s, reliability.) to go that route. :thumbdown:


Very nice comparison. I've been close to buying a 43x/48 on a few occasions, I already carry a 19 every day and it's slimmer and lighter and still fits my hands nicely (not too skinny like the 365/365xl) to shoot well.

I bet that 43x will be a wonder on your belt all day over the 34!
I love the G-34, from the day the Gen 4 was first on the shelf I bought it and it’s been on my side almost every workday since (During suit/tie dignitary protection details that needed very discreet carry I used my G-19 because it concealed easier under my suit jacket.) Over the last 30 years I’ve carried on duty a S&W 5906, SIG 226, H&K USP.45, S&W 686+ .357 Mag, SIG 228 and the two Glocks... but I’ve carried the G-34 longer than all of them.

I fought going away from it because I really don’t like the chunkster G-26 we have as an option, but being chained to a desk or having to drive to our outlying offices and having the full-sized gun is wearing me out. (The more modern bucket -type seats in vehicles is a real hip-killer with a full sized grip frame, too. Man I wish I had a bench seat again!!)

Several days of reading about the G-43X piqued my interest... but when my favorite retailer flew an ad with a $408.00 price tag during today’s mad rush it made up my mind. I picked up three additional mags off GB for $75.00 shipped so I’m set there. I couldn’t find anyone selling locally stocking duty-type holsters so I had to order from Safariland an ALS paddle holster like the one I carry the G 34 in now. Once that’s in I’m set. :)

Stay safe.
 
We did have a previous admin guy years ago who went to a PPK/s .380 for duty use. To me that’s too far a step down in power and capacity (and in the case of my previous Manhurin PPK/s, reliability.) to go that route.

My brother has a PPK/s... I don't like it. For a while, my carry piece was a Colt's Government .380... full-size, not the Mustang, etc. Excellent pistol, easy to shoot, with the same furniture as a standard 1911, minus the grip safety. Shooting the two side-by-side, you can quickly see the glaring differences between a blowback and locked breech pistol. The PPK/s, while slightly heavier, recoiled more... it fairly cracks your hand. Add in the DA/SA lockwork, and the decocker...

I retired the Colt to range detail after I bought the Kahr... 9mm power in, basically, the same size package as the Colt .380. These days, unless you must have a true pocket pistol, I don't see any reason to limit yourself with a .380.

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I got away to the range for a bit to shoot my EDC Ruger LC9, Kimber Micro 9 and a newly acquired Glock 43X together to see which 9mm shoots better for me. The only ammo I had in sufficient quantity to burn was Winchester white box 115 gr FMJ.

I shot each gun cold, using 50- meter small bore bullseye targets at 8 yards, two-hand standing. I first fired 15 shots to sight in at one target, then two targets with 10 shots each at about a 1-shot per two-second clip, then a final target as deliberately as I could. Not super scientific, but it approximates not “warming up” with the gun before a CCW shooting and is at the extreme edge of most CCW encounters.

LC 9:

I’ve had this NRA-branded Ruger pistol for several years, it’s my regular EDC gun when I’m not working. Since the LC9 has been out for years there is no need to go into detail other than it is not the LC9s striker version, rather it has the original long DAO style trigger. My only modification involved painting the front sight white-then-orange with Testors model paints.

I’ve always liked the size-power-carry ability of the LC9, but I dread trying to shoot with any sort of precision with it. My results bear this out, as I missed the bull a few times shooting with any sort of speed. Most of this was my fault, as I flinched a bit down-left waiting for the sear to finally release. With this gun 2 was first, then a rapid 1,3 and a deliberate 4.

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Kimber Micro 9:

This is only the second time I’ve shot this little 1911 styled gun and I like it a lot. The SA trigger is no Gold Cup quality trigger, but it is worlds better than the original LC9’s trigger. That, and great big white dot sights, made this gun shoot pretty well for me. The rubbery grips give a decent hold, but with no finger-hook on the Mag plate or checkering on the front strap this little pistol shifted a bit in my hands when firing quickly. Some shots went low as I tried to adjust while keeping up the cadence. It also has a true “6-o’clock” hold, so my first shots often went high before I adjusted to the classic bullseye sight-target picture. Targets went 2, then a rapid 1, 4 and a deliberate 3.

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Glock 43X MOS:

This is a bit of an unfair test, as the 43X is a bit larger with a 10+1 capacity in a larger grip frame than the other two have. I bought this as a future replacement for my Glock 34, since I’m an administrator now rather than going into the field anymore. Packing a full sized pistol and spare ammo to my 100% desk-bound job is wearing on my back, so the lighter more compact 43X still allows 21 rounds on my belt but doesn’t weigh me down or dig into my ribs as much when I’m seated. (At 53 I finally realized it’s a young mans game :().

We have the stubby Glock 26’s that I could issue myself, but I’m not a fan of the fat-abbreviated grip on those pistols. The G-43X has a grip that fits me very well. I’m not planning on a compact dot sight, but if I choose to the G-43X is ready for one.

I’ve shot Glocks for years so I shot this gun cold, it’s the first time out of the box and to the range with it. My second shot caught me by surprise and went way low, then I settled down. I shot at 2, then a rapid 1, 4 and a deliberate 3. (After the Ruger I was catching myself firing a touch early on occasion like on #2 and #3.)


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After this round of bullseyes I had four silhouettes left in my target carrier, so I put them up at 10 yards and fired at a 1 shot per second clip for 30 rounds each:

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Both the Kimber and the Glock kept shots close to the central ring. The Ruger, handicapped by the trigger, kept them in the vitals but were scattered about a lot more.

My final target was fired DA at 10 yds with my 6” Model 14 and .38 Wadcutters over 2.7 gr Bullseye. A rather unfair comparison, those two make a sweet combo!

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All in all, the three different trigger modes certainly showed me which ones I shoot best. I wasn’t bouncing bullets off the roof or the walls with the LC9, but should some sort of precision be required it’ll take a lot more effort on my part to make such a shot.

I’m looking forward to the switch from the G-34 to the G-43X, wearing the 43X for 11 hours a day should make the old spine a bit less crabby. I ordered a Safariland paddle for it, once it comes in I’ll take the duty qualification course and swap it out. As for my EDC, I’m done carrying the LC9. I believe I will keep the G-43X in that role as well, so I have one trigger system to master rather than go to the SA Kimber system.

Stay safe.
Seems to me your best groups were with the Mdl 14.
 
Excellent comparison, thanks for taking the time to post. Glock 43x seems like the winner for me.
I looked hard at G43x and Glock 48..since I EDC at 3 or 4 oclock, the longer barrel meant nothing in terms of carry but I'm WAY more accurate with the G48 vs a G43 or G26. I think grip and barrel length.
 
Riomouse911

Great comparison and write-up! The Glock definitely looks to have the edge in the accuracy department over the Kimber and the Ruger. My EDC consists of two S&W J frames (Model 649 and Model 638), and one 9mm. (Kahr CM9). All three have very similar double action triggers so it's a bit easier to transition between them. They are also relatively lightweight and nice and easy to carry around for long periods of time.
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Excellent review ! May I ask what are the advantages of the 43x over a G-19 ? Is there that much of a difference in size/weight ?
I was looking to get the G-19 until I saw an article about a 15 round flush fit mag for the 43X the 43x looks about an inch shorter than the 19. Both same height.
G19 G43X
Length 7.36" 6.5"
Height 4.99" 5.04"
Width 1.26" 1.1"
Weight 23.6 oz 18.7 oz
Barrel 4.1" 3.41"

https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/glock-g19-gen4-vs-glock-g43x
The mag is made by Shield Arms and runs about $50.00. They were out of stock for a while, but at Cabela's you could put your name on their mailing list and they would notify when in stock, same for Shield.
I was suprised how well it fit me as I have large hands ( I can palm a basket ball). I have full contact on the grip with all fingers.
Shield recommends replacing the poylmer mag catch with a metal one, because there might be some wear concerns using the metal mag with the polymer catch.
I picked up mine used (two tone) with night sights for $400.00. The gun looked unfired.
 
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I was looking to get the G-19 until I saw an article about a 15 round flush fit mag for the 43X the 43x looks about an inch shorter than the 19. Both same height.
G19 G43X
Length 7.36" 6.5"
Height 4.99" 5.04"
Width 1.26" 1.1"
Weight 23.6 oz 18.7 oz
Barrel 4.1" 3.41"

https://www.handgunhero.com/compare/glock-g19-gen4-vs-glock-g43x
The mag is made by Shield Arms and runs about $50.00. They were out of stock for a while, but at Cabela's you could put your name on their mailing list and they would notify when in stock, same for Shield.
I was suprised how well it fit me as I have large hands ( I can palm a basket ball). I have full contact on the grip with all fingers.
Shield recommends replacing the poylmer mag catch with a metal one, because there might be some wear concerns using the metal mag with the polymer catch.
I picked up mine used (two tone) with night sights for $400.00. The gun looked unfired.

Perfect, that’s the spec comparison I was going to do today so you saved me a bit of time :thumbup:.

I got a 4lb striker spring from Ghost, once I re-lace my sons rear motorcycle rim (he took out a couple of spokes) I plan on swapping the spring out today. I don’t plan on getting metal mags but if I do an aluminum mag catch will be part of that buy. :)
Riomouse911

Great comparison and write-up! The Glock definitely looks to have the edge in the accuracy department over the Kimber and the Ruger. My EDC consists of two S&W J frames (Model 649 and Model 638), and one 9mm. (Kahr CM9). All three have very similar double action triggers so it's a bit easier to transition between them. They are also relatively lightweight and nice and easy to carry around for long periods of time.
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Familiarity is why I think I’ll be using the 43X day and night. The Kahr and revolvers are sorta similar trigger-wise so you’ll be able to swap and not be fumbling about. As I posted, I haven’t had any experience with one. Kahr pistols almost always get raves from owners, if I wasn’t in Nazi-Fornia where they’re off limits for almost everyone they would be more common here I’m sure!

The Micro 9 shoots really well for me and conceals well, too. Id like to use it, but it’s been many years since I carried a SA auto off duty (It was a 1969-made Belgian HiPower) so the cocked and locked aspect is one that would take me a lot of range time to re-instill into my muscle memory. With the lack of available ammo on the shelves today, shooting hundreds of shots nowadays is bordering on iffy at best. Once stuff calms down I’ll reevaluate it and maybe I’ll give it a try.

Seems to me your best groups were with the Mdl 14.

Yeah, pitting the Model 14 against a few compact-carry autos was a bit unfair ;).

Stay safe. :)
 
I'm fine with the Glock 43 and its shorter grip. The G26 is even better, if you can conceal the thicker grip.

I would carry my LC9s pro. The trigger is very good.

My smaller 1911 9mm is a good reliable shooter.

It's nice to have so many good choices. I prefer the G43 or G26 ahead of the Ruger or the 1911, though they're all pretty good.

 
I have Glocks ; 17L, 19, 26 21 . Out of them for EDC I prefer the 19 all around . I did carry legally in Ca. for 10 years an issued 26 as a reservist in return for free vehicle service for a small PD (because that is the crummy way Ca. rolls for pistol permits in past, now it's even worse) as I met the older POST requirements and found that fatty 26 to be a poor EDC and the 19 I bought was better ! As I got older and retired and moved to Oregon where I got a CCL I started carrying a Shield .40 I had bought in CA. when they first came out and the early ones at least I just never could like , I tried ! Then My son started pushing the Walther PPS 9mm he was EDC ing on me. It was the same size as the Shield or your Glock 43x but just seemed more accurate and certainly slicker than the Shield (an early one) I was carrying . I resisted it but two years ago I bought an as new one in .40 from GunBroker for $350 and was hooked ! It worked IWB in kydex quality clip on holsters for me . I used the 7 round mags. But I did start losing accuracy firing more than a couple mags at the range, because of Louis Awerbucks training I discerned I was wearing out ! So last year I switched with my 46 year old son his 9mm for my .40 and we are both happy as clams. I use 8 round mags so I have 9 rounds of 9mm and my accuracy is back up at 15 yards. The Walther PPS M1 seems to have about the same specs as your 43x , so I assume modern handgun design indeed landed on a "sweet spot" for concealed EDC . I also been fooling with a Para LDA .45 P12 for a few years trying to get is as reliable as my P14 or P13,, I think I have finally done so , but it is as chunky as a Glock 26 sooooo :( back to the sweet modern spot :
Walther PPS M1 :
550 g (19.4 oz) (9×19mm Parabellum empty)
560 g (19.8 oz) (.40 S&W empty)
Length 160.5 mm (6.32 in)
Barrel length 81 mm (3.2 in)
Width 27 mm (1.1 in) (including controls)
Height 112 mm (4.4 in) (small magazine)
124 mm (4.9 in) (medium magazine)
134 mm (5.3 in) (large magazine)

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The 43X is a great choice. Mine gets carried often. I stumbled across a 48 a while ago and bought it on the spot with the intention of it being my carry gun, carrying it IWB. Back issues which I'm pretty much recovered from, but not enough to carry IWB made me go to pocket carry. I picked up the 43X for that purpose, and can do so with most of the clothes I own. The Shield Arms 15 round magazine have makes this about as close to a perfect carry gun as I've found. It checks all the boxes, being reliable, light, thin and therefore easy to carry, accurate and the capacity I want.
 
That is a great write up! I have played with a lot of smaller carry guns trying to find the magic combo as well. I have gone through a Colt Pocketlite, Sig P230, S&W 442, Kahr Arms, and a Walther PPK. They all left something to be desired and I had a hard time with my "largish" hands. Eventually I settled on the Glock 26 and learned to shoot it well. Being from CA, I only CCW while fishing, hunting, and in other states. As I started to spend more and more time in other CCW friendly states I wanted to improve on the 26 and ended up with both a 43 and a 48 which also gave me a 43X. This was hard to do as those guns are not approved for sale in CA. Fortunately they are available on the used market and I bought them both before all this panic buying for scalpers prices, but not the totally insane prices I am seeing now. I tend to go with the 43 and the 43X set up the vast majority of the time. The grip on these guys fits my hand well and they conceal pretty easy.

I am thankful this thread popped up though because my neighbor has a Ruger that he is trying to sell me. I have been tempted to get the Ruger, but the trigger has never thrilled me. I think this helped me to pass and save my dollars for something else.

Thanks for the great write up and pics.
 
That is a great write up! I have played with a lot of smaller carry guns trying to find the magic combo as well. I have gone through a Colt Pocketlite, Sig P230, S&W 442, Kahr Arms, and a Walther PPK. They all left something to be desired and I had a hard time with my "largish" hands. Eventually I settled on the Glock 26 and learned to shoot it well. Being from CA, I only CCW while fishing, hunting, and in other states. As I started to spend more and more time in other CCW friendly states I wanted to improve on the 26 and ended up with both a 43 and a 48 which also gave me a 43X. This was hard to do as those guns are not approved for sale in CA. Fortunately they are available on the used market and I bought them both before all this panic buying for scalpers prices, but not the totally insane prices I am seeing now. I tend to go with the 43 and the 43X set up the vast majority of the time. The grip on these guys fits my hand well and they conceal pretty easy.

I am thankful this thread popped up though because my neighbor has a Ruger that he is trying to sell me. I have been tempted to get the Ruger, but the trigger has never thrilled me. I think this helped me to pass and save my dollars for something else.

Thanks for the great write up and pics.
Just a question, what guns are not approved in CA and for what reason?
 
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