I found this old gun...

[gunnerjones]

I was going threw my grandfathers "stuff" (he died before i was born) and there was a old winchester rifle. I was told that he bought it but didnt get time to shoot it. I took it to a gun shop and the owner fliped out!! He said it was worth $15,000. It was a old 1800's 22cal. pump. It had no rifleling in it (he said that they didnt have that in the early ones) a strait stock and had a strait (not curved) butt stock, no... pad thing on the end of the butt, does not have a sereal number, round barrel, the factory bluing and wood finish is still on it, 20" barrel, any one know what i should do with it and how much it would be werth (dont really the gun shop person) thanks for your time...

 

[armoredman]

if you don't want to keep it as a keepsake, look it up on GunBroker, or take the gunshop guy's money and run.

 

[gunnerjones]

haha!! I'll take the money and run!!!

 

[highorder]

haha!! I'll take the money and run!!!

Is that what grandpa would want?...

 

[Oro]

Some of the old Winchester .22 caliber "Gallery Gun" models 1890 and 1906 do bring some impressive prices - but a pristine one in near-new condition is more like $1,500, not $15,000. We have one of these but not so precious an example.

Perhaps this is some highly prized rare variant, but you should ID it and find out what you have. The patent dates and features can help you ID it. Find a Winchester collector site and do a little comparing.

 

[cyclopsshooter]

maybe he meant $15.00

 

[gunnerjones]

maybe he meant $15.00

NO!!! The guy said $15,000!!

 

[Jim Watson]

If you want a serious discussion you need to show close clear pictures.

I strongly doubt the dealer would back up his "appraisal" with cash.

 

[Mike Sr.]

Gunner...do not auction it. Do not use it... Do not do anything with this rifle, until you find out whatever you can find out.

Do whatever it takes to preserve the condition it is in NOW! DO NOT FINGER PRINT IT UP GOING OOOOHHH, AND AAAAHHHH....

There are reputable Winchester collectors who will be willing to help you determine a value.

Do not rush headlong into 'unloading' it.


MANY, many yr's [15] ago, I was at a gun show and this local kid -about 23- went thru the gun show I was set up at, with his grandfathers WW2, 45 acp and holster and mags and papers.

I was near the door and he went thru the show and everyone wanted it for 4-5-6 hundred bucks. But he did not sell it.

When he did stop at my set-up I told he him he should keep it! He was not interested in keeping it: he wanted a motorcycle... the wisdom of youth.... I had seen this kid a number of times at shows and was comfortable with him and he seemed comfortable with ISH....


I told him I could find a Colt collector for him but I needed to take picture's. AS we were talking he told me his G-Father was a Supply C-O...!!!!!!!!!!! I gave him a receipt that I had all the stuff.
I found a WW2 firearm collector and told him about the Colt 45 ACP. I sent the pictures. With in 24hrs of receiving the pix's he called me. The 'man' was astounded! IT APPEARED ALL ORIGINAL. ... And this Colt looked unfired or fired very little...THERE WERE NO MARKS ON THE FEED RAMP AND ALL NUMBERS MATCHED.

Told me if I ever wanted to sell this he send me a cashier's check over night for $2000...plus extra for shiping/ins and that it must be sent over nite to his FFL.


I called the kid...he sold it.


15 YR'S AGO $2,000 WAS a lot of scratch...

I am sure the mortorcyle has been re-cycled but the Colt is still around!

 

[rcmodel]

None of what you said adds up.
If it is an early winchester pump, it is either a Model 1890 or a Model 06.

20" barrel,

A 20" round barrel makes it an 06 Model unless someone cut off a 24" 1890 and turned the octagon flats off.

In either case, it would say 1890 on the receiver tang, or 06 on the barrel.

does not have a serial number,

All Winchester 1890's and 06's have a serial number on the lower receiver tang. Take-downs, which all 06's were, also have the same serial number on the bottom of the receiver right behind the barrel.
If it doesn't have the same serial number in those two places, someone ground them off.

It had no rifleling in it

All Winchester pumps had rifling from day one, unless it was a special order for use with rat shot. Or the barrel is so badly rusted from corrosive ammo 100 years ago the rifling is gone.

In any case, no 06 Winchester is worth $15,000, unless you have the factory letter stating Annie Oakley special ordered it from the factory. And if it truly has no serial number, even that would be impossible to prove.

rc

 

[BADSBSNF81]

You really need to get some pictures of it and a detailed descripriton posted. Lots of knowledgeable folks here and at http://www.winchestercollector.org/forum/index.php or Rimfire Central.

Alternatively, find a copy of Ned Schwing's Slide-Action Rifles. Ned Schwing lists the sales figures for serial numbers 1 -329,999 as follows for the 1890;

1. 22 Short = 180,133
2. 22 Long = 67,174
3. 22 W.R.F. = 65,312
4. 22 CB = 10
5. 22 Long Smoothbore = 3

 

[Elmer]

Take the money......

 

[jim in Anchorage]

Troll.

 

[chuckusaret]

I suggest that you get an appraisal on the gun before you do anything, other than lock it up. I was the high bidder ($35.00) for a Colt US Army model 1901 .38 DA revolver at a gun recent auction that has since been appraised at $850-$1,200 by an independent appraiser. Get your weapon appraised by an expert.

 

[logjam]

Yeah, take the gun back to the gunstore and sell it to the guy for $15,000. It's not worth nearly that much. With the 15K you can buy yourself a nearly mint 73 or 76 Winchester.

Those smooth bore pumps were made to shoot shot in. They had little skeet that they'd toss up and shoot. They were not "early" rifles, but later ones. You could also shoot 22 bird shot in it; that'd be fun.