I got a Colt Delta Elite; Now What??

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OK, This summer through enemy territory and hostile environs I took with me to my bunker in Montana a nearly new Colt Delta Elite, with box and three mags. This cost 600 bucks from a good friend.

I now own the, "best semi auto handgun cartridge I never owned."

As a extra dividend, the spring is so stiff that with a full mag and unchambered, my three small sons cannot pull the slide back. My wife can't pull the slide back. I showed the oldest son, my most trustworthy and attentive son, how to push the gun forward instead of pull the slide backwards when putting into battery; he still could not do it. Thus this instantly became the house gun, able to be avaliable without the fear of the two year old or neighbor kid having a shooting incident with it. I still keep the weapon out of reach and check its status whenever I handle it.

It's good to have it aboard.
I now own two semi autos- a Springfield 1911 and the Colt. And though the Colt is exceptionally tight by Colt standards it is not as tight as my older Springfield. It also weighs slightly less which was a surprise- it felt heavier in the hand.


I'll keep to book loads and enjoy the 10. What else can one do?

This purchase has wiped out my finances, for though a great deal at 600 I'm not rolling in dough by any standards and am now in debt to, "the House', probably past Christmas. Naturally, since going into debt all the deal of a lifetime have come out of the wood work. I've passed on a number of brilliant high carbon steel khukuris from HI imports, sob.

I keep telling myself this fine weapon was worth the sacrafice.


munk
 
That's two for the summer; a Model 58 and the Colt Delta Elite.

btw; the Colt Delta Elite is stainless steel and "enhanced'. What is that?




munk
 
Do you reload? The 10mm is a reloaders dream cartridge. A few things you should do to your DE. First, chuck the Colt dual spring recoil spring and plastic guide rod set up. Get a standard GI style short, steel guide rod or a steel full length guide rod and plug (one piece, don't waste money on a two piece rod). I also recommend an EGW flat bottom firing pin stop. With these, you can use a 20 pound Wolff conventional recoil spring for full power ammo and a 16 pounder for the light (FBI) loads. Also, I think the DE is one Government Model that will benefit from a CP Bullets' shock buffer.

I don't know about your DE, but mine has been 110% reliable, to the point it will feed a whole mag of empties from all three Colt magazines.

Oh, in case you did not know, here is a web page full of information on the 1911 chambered in 10mm.

http://www.geocities.com/mr_motorhead/10tech.html
 
What is that?

Means it has a little rib atop the slide, a beavertail safety, a high-hand cut under the trigger guard, and a few other things I'm not recollecting off the top of my head.

My DE is stainless, but not one of the "Enhanced" guns. You may find that the ribbed slide of the Enhanced guns fits funny in some holsters; my .38 Super does.


(Re: The dual-spring/plastic guide rod.
The plastic guide rod is a valuable thing for DE collectors, because you can use it to tell at a glance how much the original owner shot the gun. Is it intact? Then the gun is unfired. If it's cracked, he's run a mag through it. If it's busted all to hell, he's run two or more mags through it. :D )
 
This gun has less than 40 rounds through it; I know the former owner.

He has also added a titaneum (sic) tigger and a few other goodies.

It has a shock buffer. I'll check out the guiderod.


munk
 
I don't know, Tamara, which would you suggest? I am a semi auto illiterate. I picked the only one I wanted years ago, (1911) and haven't thought a thing about them since until getting this Delta Elite.




munk
 
My Delta Elite is the only 1911 I have that has a FLGR in it (all Sean's fault. :D )

I don't see where it's necessary, but another ounce or two out by the muzzle in a 10mm gun sure can't hurt. If you want to stick with a stubby GI type guide rod (which I personally prefer) you can usually pick one up for next to nothing at any gun show. For a FLGR, you need to decide whether you want one- or two-piece (I prefer one-piece if forced to use one) and then go pick you one out of the Brownell's catalog.
 
A Delta Elite is a sure thing on my "to get" list. Post some pics of it if you can.
 
I found mine in gun-loving California for a mere $700. I had John Jardine (aka, the Valtro guy) do some magic to it. Below are some before/after shots:

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Congrats on your DE, Munk. Sounds like you got a nice one. :)

Normally on a 1911 I wouldn't use a FLGR, but I did on my Delta. I installed the unit before I had the gun customized and it worked flawlessly. It does add a slight bit of weight toward the muzzle, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing on a 10mm.

The FLGR I used - along with a 24lb Wolff recoil spring for the hotter loads - did appear to "smooth out" the gun's functioning during recoil, though it didn't noticably improve accuracy (didn't hurt it either). I also run a 22lb Wolff variable spring for moderate-to-warmish loads, and the Delta functions fine with that too.

By the way, that's an issue where 10mm-1911 fans seem to disagree: recoil spring weight when using a FLGR. Some like the lighter springs (18-20lbs); a bit heavier (22-24lbs); and, for those firing nuclear loads, "rock-crushers" (@ 26lbs+). IIRC, Colt's factory dual recoil-springs together were supposed to create an alleged 23lbs of resistance.

Shoot yours for a while and see how it runs. If it's fine stock, then leave it that way. But even with a FLGR, a single recoil spring and maybe some cleaning up of the trigger pull, an otherwise stock Delta defines "cool" in a 1911, IMO.

Sights and other custom touches are more of a personal thing and really depend on what you want to do with it. Is it just an occasional range plinker? A potential competition IPSC/IDPA piece? Or is it intended for CCW use and home defense?

Be sure to check out Sean Smith's site. It's got great info on basic things that can be done to enhance a Delta's performance level.

The work on mine is detailed here:

http://bren-ten.com/agtman-delta/id4.html

Enjoy! :cool:
 
Congrats on your Delta Elite. Had one was an idiot traded it off for a custom Browning HiPower. The things we do when we are young.....
There was one on Gunbroker a couple of days ago $575 BUY IT NOW NIB. Just missed it... There will be others. Enjoy your new gun!
 
Geeze Rusty, am I carrying this coffee can through the woods with me, or what?

I figure the 58 for the woods, the 10 for town and country.

I have two colt mags that work great, and a Wilson Combat that doesn't work at all. Probably needs a new spring.


munk
 
Here's what I did to my DElite based on the combined wisdom on Sean's 10mm tech page.

Installed a standard guide rod and 20 lbs Wolff Delta Elite spring and matching firing pin spring.
Installed a +2 lbs hammer spring (23 lbs I think, know it's +2 from stock though)
Installed EGW oversized FP stop and left the bottom un-radiused.
Bought spare shok-buffs for when the one already in the gun gets too beat up.

Eats my full power 135 and 165 grain loads without a hickup now, doesn't throw brass as bad, and is more pleasant to shoot.

Other mods have been a steel MSH to add weight for less felt recoil and cosmetic changes. Previous owner installed a Shok-Buff and aluminum Casull trigger.

If they weren't so freaking expensive I'd get a tungsten bushing and plug to increase slide weight.
 
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