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"He built it, out of parts he legally bought online." --Huffington Post
Well, not quite; he made it out of a lump of metal he bought online--but let's not split hairs, it's the same thing and should be banned (and hairs, too, while we're at it
)
Though parts kits (and especially builds) rarely come up around here, it is imperative we all kindly mention to our reps that their components are as protected by the 2nd as the complete machines pumped out by S&W et.al., and that we won't stand for background checks and FFL fees on slide assemblies and bolt carrier groups
Rep. Waxman (D-SM,CA) is proposing an end to the online sale of "parts kits" (by which he legally means any group of more than one component of a firearm or scrap metal in a box) after reports the Santa Monica nutter may have built his "arsenal" from a non-FFL 80% receiver and non-FFL black powder pistol & conversion cylinder. Now, I feel for Waxman; he's from CA, he represents Santa Monica, and he's GOT TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE CHILDREN after this mess --let him have his moment of feigned-righteousness for the folks back home-- but let's make sure he's sent home humiliated. 
http://www.thebangswitch.com/proposed-ban-on-parts-kits-being-introduced/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/17/assault-weapon-kit-ban-henry-waxman_n_3605564.html
(Though full of junk adds that take time to load, the Huffpo article has far more details on the proposed legislation, and even *gasp* discusses the impracticality of such a vague ban)
Highlights of the first include a brief mention that home-built guns have been responsible for exactly *one* high profile shooting as of late (if not ever). I'll take this moment to briefly mention the same can be said of both legally registered silencers, and especially legally-registered machineguns.
Huffpo makes sure to mention Ebay and Craigslist's policies on firearms sales glowingly, as though those policies were driven by something more altruistic than lawyers and dictatorial fiat. Also featured is Bloomberg's infamous Armslist sting, and it closes with a random shoe-horned quote of President Obama calling for gun control as an appeal to authority (ironically, from a guy who has none on the gun-law front
). Of course, there is zero discussion of what *legally* constitutes a firearm (or parts kit), which any 1st year journalism or law student would tell you is the only thing that matters in this article's content.
As a gun-enthusiast who has increasingly become interested in firearms design and manufacture after exhausting the list of commercially available offerings I'd like to own, parts kits offer an inexpensive and legal means to obtain functioning facsimilies of interesting firearms that are not widely available (STGW57, AR70, etc.) or are horribly expensive by their scarcity. They also offer the components needed to craft unique creations and prototypes with far less effort than starting from raw stock. A demilled parts kit is a simple and effective way to gather, store, and distribute all the parts needed to keep a weapon functional (especially if those parts must be fitted to one another, as a matched parts kit helps ensure they all fit properly at one time).
Lastly, parts kits are the only way demilled junk from buybacks can make municipalities some of their money back
TCB
*Disclaimer; it goes without saying, but be sure you know what you are doing physically and legally, before undertaking any parts kit build. The rules are clear enough to abide by, but they are arbitrary and unintuitive, so "poking the bear" at the ATF is easier than you know. Build wisely, and don't risk your freedom.
Well, not quite; he made it out of a lump of metal he bought online--but let's not split hairs, it's the same thing and should be banned (and hairs, too, while we're at it
)Though parts kits (and especially builds) rarely come up around here, it is imperative we all kindly mention to our reps that their components are as protected by the 2nd as the complete machines pumped out by S&W et.al., and that we won't stand for background checks and FFL fees on slide assemblies and bolt carrier groups
Rep. Waxman (D-SM,CA) is proposing an end to the online sale of "parts kits" (by which he legally means any group of more than one component of a firearm or scrap metal in a box
) after reports the Santa Monica nutter may have built his "arsenal" from a non-FFL 80% receiver and non-FFL black powder pistol & conversion cylinder. Now, I feel for Waxman; he's from CA, he represents Santa Monica, and he's GOT TO DO SOMETHING FOR THE CHILDREN after this mess --let him have his moment of feigned-righteousness for the folks back home-- but let's make sure he's sent home humiliated. http://www.thebangswitch.com/proposed-ban-on-parts-kits-being-introduced/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/17/assault-weapon-kit-ban-henry-waxman_n_3605564.html
(Though full of junk adds that take time to load, the Huffpo article has far more details on the proposed legislation, and even *gasp* discusses the impracticality of such a vague ban)
Highlights of the first include a brief mention that home-built guns have been responsible for exactly *one* high profile shooting as of late (if not ever). I'll take this moment to briefly mention the same can be said of both legally registered silencers, and especially legally-registered machineguns.
Huffpo makes sure to mention Ebay and Craigslist's policies on firearms sales glowingly, as though those policies were driven by something more altruistic than lawyers and dictatorial fiat. Also featured is Bloomberg's infamous Armslist sting, and it closes with a random shoe-horned quote of President Obama calling for gun control as an appeal to authority (ironically, from a guy who has none on the gun-law front
). Of course, there is zero discussion of what *legally* constitutes a firearm (or parts kit), which any 1st year journalism or law student would tell you is the only thing that matters in this article's content.As a gun-enthusiast who has increasingly become interested in firearms design and manufacture after exhausting the list of commercially available offerings I'd like to own, parts kits offer an inexpensive and legal means to obtain functioning facsimilies of interesting firearms that are not widely available (STGW57, AR70, etc.) or are horribly expensive by their scarcity. They also offer the components needed to craft unique creations and prototypes with far less effort than starting from raw stock. A demilled parts kit is a simple and effective way to gather, store, and distribute all the parts needed to keep a weapon functional (especially if those parts must be fitted to one another, as a matched parts kit helps ensure they all fit properly at one time).
Lastly, parts kits are the only way demilled junk from buybacks can make municipalities some of their money back
TCB
*Disclaimer; it goes without saying, but be sure you know what you are doing physically and legally, before undertaking any parts kit build. The rules are clear enough to abide by, but they are arbitrary and unintuitive, so "poking the bear" at the ATF is easier than you know. Build wisely, and don't risk your freedom.
