For Eric... Dude, you frickin' work all day long with people who love guns, know you carry AND you visibly "play" with them...at WORK? Why the hell are you worried about a holster setup? Sound like you can wear basically anything you want because no one would care. Covering up for the "rest" of the world is simple. Simple in the fact that nobody cares and nobody is looking at you anyway.
I hate carrying a pocket gun!!!
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When you clean your LCP make sure you wipe it down thoroughly so you don't have excessive oil on the weapon. The oil will attract lint and dirt. Also, make sure you carry your LCP in a good holster. It will protect if and keep a lot of the lint and crap out of it. Also, you really need to clean and maintain your weapon. Just because you aren't shooting it doesn't mean it isn't dirty. It picks up a lot of lint and crap in your pockets, you should take it down and clean it regularly.
A lot of people recommend a very thin film of grease on the slide rails. I've been doing this (Militec) for years and it's worked for me. First time I heard of it was during a course at Gunsite in Arizona. The instructors liked grease on the rails of their 1911s and they specifically said it did well in not attracting sand, dust, grit. I decided to try it when I heard it highly recommended to get the P3AT running reliably on KTOG. I now use a thin film of grease on all my handguns and haven't had a problem.
bigfatdave
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Another rail greaser here.
I clean them out with a cotton swab every time I'm in there cleaning, and then apply fresh grease by using the rail to scrape the grease off of my finger, then cycle the slide until I get bored.
It works for all slide-based autoloaders in my experience ... not so much for Ruger .22 pistols (where the heck do you grease a bolt?)
I clean them out with a cotton swab every time I'm in there cleaning, and then apply fresh grease by using the rail to scrape the grease off of my finger, then cycle the slide until I get bored.
It works for all slide-based autoloaders in my experience ... not so much for Ruger .22 pistols (where the heck do you grease a bolt?)
My advice as well.
My lcp pocket carry goes bang every time even when packed with lint and sand. Feed it at least 200 rounds before you trust it. I have over 1000 through mine. You gotta loosen her up a bit. Lightly oil it and give it a quick cleaning now and again. However I have gone over 3 months without cleaning mine and it was still flawless at the range for 200 rounds of wwb.
CJ
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6'3", 170 here. Your first need, even with a pocket holster, is a better belt.
After that, I've gone with the 5.11 'Covert Khaki' line. It's got a secondary interior pocket that can be zipped shut. It's intended for spare mags, lights, etc., but an LCP in nemesis fits in there just fine for me. It IS a slow draw, but it keeps anything else (including most lint) from getting in or out.
And the occasional blast from some canned air takes care of the rest.
After that, I've gone with the 5.11 'Covert Khaki' line. It's got a secondary interior pocket that can be zipped shut. It's intended for spare mags, lights, etc., but an LCP in nemesis fits in there just fine for me. It IS a slow draw, but it keeps anything else (including most lint) from getting in or out.
And the occasional blast from some canned air takes care of the rest.
I'd REALLY like to see the inside of this dude's pockets to see how bad they really are and what makes him think his dirt/lint situation is so "special". I'm sure it's no better/worse than the rest of us with RELIABLE pocket semi-autos...
Also, regarding 200 rounds (or whatever) break in, I've found hand cycling snap caps a BUNCH of times really helps to "run in" a brand new pocket semi-auto. MUCH cheaper and convenient (especially with .380) than actually firing. Clean/lube it initially, then rack snap caps through it a couple hundred times while you're watching TV or something. Only takes a night or two and that's with cleaning, inspecting and re-lubing a couple of times. I figure, as I hand break it in, if it will feed and eject snap caps as fast as I can realistically hand cycle the slide, then that is a GREAT indicator of how it will perform on the range with ball ammo. And it doesn't cost anything.
Also, regarding 200 rounds (or whatever) break in, I've found hand cycling snap caps a BUNCH of times really helps to "run in" a brand new pocket semi-auto. MUCH cheaper and convenient (especially with .380) than actually firing. Clean/lube it initially, then rack snap caps through it a couple hundred times while you're watching TV or something. Only takes a night or two and that's with cleaning, inspecting and re-lubing a couple of times. I figure, as I hand break it in, if it will feed and eject snap caps as fast as I can realistically hand cycle the slide, then that is a GREAT indicator of how it will perform on the range with ball ammo. And it doesn't cost anything.
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KBintheSLC
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How on earth do you sit down with a gun in your back pocket? My sciatica is acting up just thinking about it.
1KPerDay
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Too lazy. Sorry.
Just One Shot
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What the heck kind of pants are you wearing?
I carry my LCP almost every day and I can go months at a time without any kind of build up.
Sounds to me like you need to get a better pocket holster and wash your pants more often!
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Legionnaire
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kanook beat me to it. I have a couple of 5.11 tactical holster t-shirts. They can be a bit warm, but they work great under a button down sport shirt. LCP, PM9 both carry very easily. Link: http://www.lapolicegear.com/5taunstsh.html
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KBintheSLC Quote;
How on earth do you sit down with a gun in your back pocket? My sciatica is acting up just thinking about it.
No problems, hell my real wallet is more of a pain in the @$$ than my wallet-holster. The real problem is remembering which pocket I have the real wallet in as I would not want to be paying for something and pull the wrong one.LM
How on earth do you sit down with a gun in your back pocket? My sciatica is acting up just thinking about it.
No problems, hell my real wallet is more of a pain in the @$$ than my wallet-holster. The real problem is remembering which pocket I have the real wallet in as I would not want to be paying for something and pull the wrong one.
LMHawthorne2k
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I've carried a P3AT to work in the front pocket of my khakis every day for the last two years.
Ok, not every day, as Friday's are casual day and I can wear a loose t-shirt, which means I can carry something bigger in an IWB.
I digress...
1. I've never had an issue with lint whilst pocket-carrying my P3AT. Buy some dryer sheets and clean out the lint trap, dude!
2. Yes, the P3AT has only 7+1 of .380 ACP (and another 6 in the spare mag in my other pocket), but it's enough to deal with any social issues I can think of that may pop up inside my office, and if it can't do the job, there's always what I have in my car. After all, the purpose of a pistol is to use it to fight your way to your rifle, correct?
3. Would I like to carry something bigger? Sure, and occasionally, I do (I have a 9mm Sccy that can be pocket-carried if needed). The P3AT, however, is smaller and lighter, never gets in the way and is utterly unnoticeable in my khakis. I don't mind carrying the P3AT every single day to work, and that's really the point, right, to have a gun with you if a gunfight breaks out?
4. Business casual makes it hard to conceal a firearm, doubly so if you're a middle manager like I am. Wearing a blazer all the time at work is out, as is going around with an untucked shirt. People in my office know I'm a gun guy, but almost all of them don't know I carry concealed every day to work. I consider myself fortunate not to work in an office that bans firearms in the building. In today's economy, I have to balance my rights and abilities to protect myself with my responsibility to provide for my wife and family, and pocket-carrying a P3AT is the best way I've found to do it. No, I don't think I'll be fired if I'm found out, but why jump on a landmine if you don't need to?
Your situation may vary from mine, and you can strap on a 84mm Carl Gustav on your waist and go to work, so if that's the case, then good on ya. My case (and the case of the original poster) are different. The important thing is we carry and we are willing and able to defend our lives and the lives of co-workers. Let's enjoy that, and not engage in any more fratricide than is absolutely necessary.
Ok, not every day, as Friday's are casual day and I can wear a loose t-shirt, which means I can carry something bigger in an IWB.
I digress...
1. I've never had an issue with lint whilst pocket-carrying my P3AT. Buy some dryer sheets and clean out the lint trap, dude!
2. Yes, the P3AT has only 7+1 of .380 ACP (and another 6 in the spare mag in my other pocket), but it's enough to deal with any social issues I can think of that may pop up inside my office, and if it can't do the job, there's always what I have in my car. After all, the purpose of a pistol is to use it to fight your way to your rifle, correct?
3. Would I like to carry something bigger? Sure, and occasionally, I do (I have a 9mm Sccy that can be pocket-carried if needed). The P3AT, however, is smaller and lighter, never gets in the way and is utterly unnoticeable in my khakis. I don't mind carrying the P3AT every single day to work, and that's really the point, right, to have a gun with you if a gunfight breaks out?
4. Business casual makes it hard to conceal a firearm, doubly so if you're a middle manager like I am. Wearing a blazer all the time at work is out, as is going around with an untucked shirt. People in my office know I'm a gun guy, but almost all of them don't know I carry concealed every day to work. I consider myself fortunate not to work in an office that bans firearms in the building. In today's economy, I have to balance my rights and abilities to protect myself with my responsibility to provide for my wife and family, and pocket-carrying a P3AT is the best way I've found to do it. No, I don't think I'll be fired if I'm found out, but why jump on a landmine if you don't need to?
Your situation may vary from mine, and you can strap on a 84mm Carl Gustav on your waist and go to work, so if that's the case, then good on ya. My case (and the case of the original poster) are different. The important thing is we carry and we are willing and able to defend our lives and the lives of co-workers. Let's enjoy that, and not engage in any more fratricide than is absolutely necessary.
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DAdams
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Clean and lubricate as recommended.
Try some Columbia Lander pants. Two front pockets, one with zipper for dedicated pocket carry and a "normal" pocket for all the other EDC crap.
Not overly tacticool.
Try some Columbia Lander pants. Two front pockets, one with zipper for dedicated pocket carry and a "normal" pocket for all the other EDC crap.
Not overly tacticool.
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