I held a HI POINT!

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I stopped by the local shop to look at the HK P2000, USPc, P99 and other polymer compacts.

I was joking around with the salesguy, and he asked me if I wanted to hold something truly "funny and goofy". Sure why not, and he pulled out a hi-point from the case. I took the opportunity to handle it since I'd normally wouldn't ask to see it. :evil:

First thing I noticed, dang this thing is HEAVY! Seems heavier than your regular steel 1911. It looks like polymer, but I really have no idea what its made out of. Anyone know? The ejection port is on the side of the slide, which was a little odd, and dang... that slide is ginormous! I thought all the flourescent orange on the hi point was kinda funny. More florescent paint than a riced out civic hatchback. The trigger truly jus plain sucked. Crossman and daisy bb/pellet guns have better triggers than this gun did.

THIS is one of those guns that, if it didn't work, THROW IT at the bad guy, cuz... ITS GONNA FREAKING HURT!

But, all and all, it was a memorable experience. :D
 
Zinc.


If it is all a person can afford, then great. Though I have read more posts (not just THR) from owners praising the gun than from owners complaining. Plenty of non-owners have their own opinons of course.
 
I have a friend that bought one, he is not what I would call a regular shooter, but he likes it. As a matter of fact, he brought it out one time while we were shooting some .45's. While it is not a thing of beauty, it was reliable and cheap. I have had weapons that I paid significantly more money for that were far less reliable!
 
I was thinking of getting one of these myself. Got a good deal on a XD9 from a firend of mine, so I didn't.

-Bill
 
they are actually pretty popular (or at least moreso than I would have expected). I don't keep any in the inventory, because I try to only keep things that I wouldn't mind getting stuck with if I shut down tomorrow, but I've probably special ordered about 10 of them. I haven't heard any complaints, and at least a couple people have emailed me to tell me how much they like them.
 
The slide has to be heavy, since it's a blowback design shooting a 9mm :eek:
 
why you make fun of the gun? if you think it's crappy and it won't work, let's try me pointing it towards you, and see if you still laugh :)
 
if you think it's crappy and it won't work, let's try me pointing it towards you, and see if you still laugh
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There is an old, rusted H&R .32SW top-break revolver lying around the house somewhere. 75% of the time, it won't even cock the hammer in DA mode. A part is loose and it usually gets in the way. But the other 25% of the time, it does indeed work. If I load that up and point it at someone, how would they react? The same way they would to any other firearm. It is still a hunk of crap that doesn't work 3/4ths of the time. This farcical scenario of yours has nothing to do with how reliable and well made the firearm is.
 
Feanaro it is your your "farcical scenario" that is flawed.
gudel said:
if you think it's crappy and it won't work, let's try me pointing it towards you, and see if you still laugh
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Feanaro said:
It is still a hunk of crap that doesn't work 3/4ths of the time. This farcical scenario of yours has nothing to do with how reliable and well made the firearm is.
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By your own account you indeed THINK it will fire 25% of the time. YOU, WOULD react differently if you thought it would fail to work 100% of the time.

The bottom line is if you THINK it will shoot you will think twice about your actions. If you THINK it will not shoot your reactions will be very different.

Some people seem to think that gangbangers can't shoot worth beans because they all shoot sideways, and that all of their guns are junk and jam on every other shot. That is stinking thinking and it could get you killed!


For every gangbanger armed with a Lorcin shooting FMJ ammo there's another with a stolen Glawk Phauty loaded with Go' Dots.
And you won't know which one you just pithed off until it's too late.

I don't like Hi Points.
They're big, cheap, ugly and unbalanced. But they shoot very reliably.

Hmmm…
As a matter of fact, that description sounds just like me. :scrutiny:
 
Yea.

I have alot of first hand experience with the Hi-points. Bolth the 9mm and .45acp.

As stated, they are a dirrect blow-back design. This meanst they fould up QUICKLY. This is worse in the 45acp version, as it has alot more powder, and isn't all that much larger. They are great for about 50 rounds at a time, but then the crude operating system catches up with it, and it begins to have fouling problems resulting mostly in Failures to feed.

Good points:
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1) it may be heavy, but it is stable. It also points well.
2) Due the lack of moving parts, it is very accurate. The irons, while simple, are effective.
3) Eats hot European Ammo like nobodys buisness.

Bad points:
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1) Too large and heavy for what it is: a full size, low-capacity Auto.
2) Due to its blow-back design, it recoils much more than other guns in its class. The 9mm weighs more than a 1911, and kicks just as badly.
3) It is a BEAR to clean. Field stripping it is terrible, and getting the 3 parts to fit back together in the right way, will take you a good hour.
 
Got ya beat, I've actually shot one! ha ha! :neener: My father in law bought one. I know, I know. he's not one to spend much $ ona gun. he bought it brought it home, tinkered with it (his other hobby) and ya know, it actually shot quite well for what it is. Wasn't a one holer but at 25 yrds, all shots were pretty much center mass and not looking like a shotgun pattern. No issues with it at all. I wouldn't buy one but hey, some folks either can't or won't spend the $ or a high pricer. Fine, but even a K-Car got you from point A to point B.

Funny though, I went to my local shop saturday and asked about possibly ordering a new HK. flipping through his brochurs he quipped sarcastically, "Hi-point, that's close right?" Yeah, they both begin with "H". other than that...not for me they're not close enough.

ordered the HK. ;)
 
The problem with fouling is quite possibly more of an ammunition problem than a gun problem. I have fired several Hi-Point pistols rather extensively and found them reliable and accurate enough for the purpose. The blowback design requires a heavy slide in the bigger calibers, so they are awkward, but I have fired worse guns in terms of reliability, some of which cost a lot more.

Jim
 
I won't argue the reliability of Hi-point guns, but the ergonomics just plain suck and they're uglier than sin. That's enough reason for me to steer clear of them. Of course, these are the same reasons my Glock 22 went bye-bye. ;)

IMO, the price of a Hi-point is not low enough to justify not saving a little longer and getting an EAA Witness 9mm or similar gun for around $300. Or a Mak for $150.
 
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I won't argue the reliability of Hi-point guns, but the ergonomics just plain suck and they're uglier than sin. That's enough reason for me to steer clear of them. Of course, these are the same reasons my Glock 22 went bye-bye. ;)

IMO, the price of a Hi-point is not low enough to justify not saving a little longer and getting an EAA Witness 9mm or similar gun for around $300. Or a Mak for $150.
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+1, in SPADES!:neener: :eek: :barf:
 
like it or not

Originally Posted by MachIVshooter
I won't argue the reliability of Hi-point guns, but the ergonomics just plain suck and they're uglier than sin. That's enough reason for me to steer clear of them. Of course, these are the same reasons my Glock 22 went bye-bye.

IMO, the price of a Hi-point is not low enough to justify not saving a little longer and getting an EAA Witness 9mm or similar gun for around $300. Or a Mak for $150.
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Now that's a sensible answer. You didn't bash the gun, you merely pointed out your opinion which should be respected, or at least listened to. If someone doesn't like the gun, then don't buy it, but don't make anyone who does buy it feel like a cheap, low-life scumbag who doesn't understand a good gun.
 
My dad has a Hi Point C9 in his collection. I have not shot it, but I kind of like it. Fits my hand well, and I like the looks at least as well as a Glock. (btw - I don't espeacially like the look of Glocks, but I kind of like this - kind of quirky.)

- w
 
I wish all my handguns had as effective and clearly visible orange sites as my Hi-Point does.They aren't nearly as un-ergonomic as people claim.The only handgun I own that's clearly superior ergonomics wise is my Sigma SW9VE.My Hi-Point comp 9 and Glock 21 feel and point the same in my hand,and are equally reliable.The main difference between the two is caliber and the fact that the Glock is a little uglier!:p
 
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I went to a gun show today and held a Makorov for the first time. I've been reading to many of you and on other forums praising the Mak for being a great gun. I'm sorry, but to me, it felt just slightly better than a Glock in my hand. Of course, I didn't buy it to see how it shoots, but it gave me my first impresson of the gun and it wsn't good. I later held a Hi-Point .45 and it felt pretty good. Strange thing was, it had different grips on it than my Hi-Point .45. I went home and shot my .45 a few times. I wish it had the same grips as the one I saw at the show.

There were about 5 commie guns and 8 Hi-Points as well as a couple hundred other guns at the show.
 
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