I tried to by a CDNN Hi-Power this weekend.

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Mossyrock

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I tried. I really, really tried. I went to my local gun pusher and told him what I wanted. For a small shop, this guy has a pretty amazing inventory. After I told him what I was looking for, he dug around in the safe behind the counter and produced a brand-new, in the box FN MkIII Hi-Power. He asked me what I planned on doing with it, and I told him that, eventually, I would send it off to Ted Yost or Don Williams to be worked over.

"Ah...", he said. "Then you don't want this gun."

More than a bit confused, I replied, "I don't?"

"Nope. You want THIS Hi-Power."

With that, he once again reached into the safe and produced a late-model, gray Browning HP box. "Here, take a look at this. Ignore the box; it doesn't match the gun."

I opened the box and very suddenly agreed with him. I DIDN'T want a MkIII FN Hi-Power...not anymore. The box I opened held a T-series blued Belgian Hi-Power that had been tweaked just a bit. It still had the old, rowel hammer and red-interior checkered walnut grips. Thoughtfully, someone had removed the magazine disconnect, and the trigger was pretty darn good. What REALLY got my attention was that someone had installed a new set of sights. The front was a dovetailed Novak, and the rear was from a GI 1911, with the sight notch opened up. While the finish wasn't pristine, it was very, very good for a gun that was almost as old as I am.

When I had recovered the ability to form a coherent thought, I asked him how much he wanted for it, prepared for the worst. "I'll tell you what..." (I HATE it when gun dealers start a sentence like that...you can almost SEE the other shoe dropping) "I will sell you that old Browning for the same price as that CDNN Hi-Power, plus $50. We'll call that a 'finders fee'."

I can't swear to it, but I am SURE my credit card left a vapor trail from my wallet to the counter.

So, I am now the owner of a T-series Belgian Hi-Power. ANOTHER T-series Belgian Hi-Power. It would seem that I have come around full circle. The first centerfire pistol I ever bought with my own money was a very used, beat up T-series over 20 years ago. I truly wish I still owned that old pistol.

I have already replaced the rear sight with a retro rear sight from Yost-Bonitz, and have built up the front sight with JB weld to act as a fit-dummy. Once I get the sights dialed in, I will replace the dummy front with a Trijicon Novak of the correct height. I think Don Williams at The Action Works will be getting some business after the first of the year.

Once I get the sight issue figured out, I will post some photos.

Merry Christmas to me! Life is GOOD!
 
I think such wonderfull service warrents a bit of credit to the shop that sold it to ya...

so that the rest of us can go buy guns from him too.
 
UPDATE!!!

Here we are, almost a year later, and I am finally in a position to post an update. The saga of the T-Series BHP continues....

After I got it home, I tore it down and took a good look at it, and it had a few small problems. Not big ones, just problems you would associate with a 30 year old pistol. First off, the slide to frame fit was pretty loose. No problem. I tightened up the fit both vertically and horizontally and lapped the slide to frame fit. This also helped the barrel fit.

As much as I like the LOOKS of the old rowel Browning hammer, they eat me alive when shooting. The hammer and the sear were replaced with Cylinder and Slide parts, and I replaced the small, stock safety with a recent vintage factor BHP safety, which I recontoured.

The next thing to address was the finish. There was some slight pitting on the front end of the slide, so I cleaned that up, draw filing with needle files under a magnifying glass. That was an interesting experience.

At that point, I had pretty much hit the wall on my own capabilities. I could have rust blued it, but I still wasn't happy with the sights and I wanted some type of non-slip front strap treatment. After doing some research, I decided to send it off to Novak for a little bit of work. Yost-Bonitz was my close-second-choice, but, at the time, they already had two of my pistols, and I wanted to spread the wealth around a bit. :D

Looking at Novak's website, I noticed that they had recently introduced a wide-notch rear sight. This rear sight, along with a Tritium front, was the package I was looking for. While they had it, I asked them to texture the front and rear of the grip and refinish it in a bead-blast blue. I debated upon having the top of the slide matted with French borders, but economics put a stop to that. My intent was to have a working gun that I could carry and shoot without worrying about a little holster wear. The gun currently wears Spegel Cocobolo grips, but I have a set of Spegel delrin grips for it as well. Anyway, this is the end result.

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honestly I don't know if I want to cry in self pity, or to hate you. I might just do both..... unless you want to give it to me.....:D pure beauty mixed with perfect performance.
 
Mechanically, structurally and metalurgically? No. However, the "coolness" factor of a T-Series Hi-Power is MUCH higher than a current production FN or Browning.... :D Like an 8.5 compared to a 3......
 
I'm in the NW too,how about generating some business for this guy?In short,where is this shop?Website?Thanks...
 
I must reassert my opinion that the Hi-Power is the most attractive pistol ever made.

And that is a lovely example.

Mike
 
Nice gun, Mossyrock. Can't wait 'til I can get mine "prettied up".

And speaking of that, you said:
....the "coolness" factor of a T-Series Hi-Power is MUCH higher than a current production FN or Browning.... Like an 8.5 compared to a 3......

So... how much "coolness factor" does a Browning Hi-Power with an internal extractor, that was apparently made in 1964 have?

My gun has a serial number that's in the 117XXX range... Browning lists the numbers for 1964 as being from 115823 to T136-568...

The confusing part is, as I said above, it has an internal extractor. However, I've read a couple of places that they went to the external extractor in 1962... :scrutiny:

So, does it get any bonus points for being... well... odd ? :p :D


J.C.
 
So... how much "coolness factor" does a Browning Hi-Power with an internal extractor, that was apparently made in 1964 have?

My gun has a serial number that's in the 117XXX range... Browning lists the numbers for 1964 as being from 115823 to T136-568...

Oh...that's at LEAST a 9.2......... :D There might be even MORE points awarded considering an internal extractor HP was the first centerfire semi-auto I ever fired. It was my neighbor's when I was a kid. He carried it through Korea and Viet Nam as a Navy Sea Bee, and shot at least one home invader with it in the '60s. Tough old bird....


BTW, seller of the gun was Rainier Guns in Lakewood.
 
I could probably sell all my guns except my Hi Powers and still be happy. No wait! What am I saying??? Damn nice Hi Power.
 
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