I know you support gun rights but do you support explosive rights?

[Linux&Gun Guy]

Gun rights are important. Got that. How about explosive rights? Make your own and blow it up on your own land. To me that seems fine and fits with the Life Liberty Property Libertarians. As long as no one around cares about the noise than I would think it would be fine.

As for suburbs here is a senario:

Tom who is 17 is interested in explosives. He is exelent in HS chem and has an A. He also reads the roguesci.org BBS. He wants to mix up some Acetone Peroxide and set about 10g of it of in his back yard. He does and destroys a toy truck that he placed on it. Now some people that live near him are mad. They hate the noise. Tom compramises by only setting stuff off in the day time on work hours at a time when most people are gone. He also will put on a firework show for the 4th every year as payment for getting to make loud noises. Now everyone gets something out of it and no one is angry.

Some people however may be worried about damage to there property or life. Even if those fears are mostly unfounded some may not want Tom messing with LE and HE near others houses. Thats why there could be gun/explosive ranges. A gun range with a football field area to set off stuff. Members would have to take safty tests and supervised at first to make sure they are smart and safe.

Whats your opinion?

 

[P95Carry]

Hmmm .... yes and no!! From a freedom POV probably I'd say yes but ..... always a ''but'' ... seeing as we come across a number of seeming crackheads at ranges .. who are sometimes hardly safe with a gun in hand .... not too sure that explosives would be too good an idea!

Biggest problem is .. a mistake by a careless user can SO much more easily take out a great many others too .... not to mention property.

Ok,OK .... do it at a range ... but you still have the probs of storage ...... safe storage of explosives is critical .. and it cannot be just anywhere. Lot of things to consider.

Back in 1985 I got my Shotfirers Certification ... meaning I could do freelance stuff blowing up rocks in quarries .. as it happens never made that much use of it. But - did turn out that storage was one of the major issues ... safety is one aspect ... security is another .. and these days the latter would be #1 for sure.

Nice to think it could be possible ... and I like most, thoroughly enjoy blowing the sh*t outa stuff! but .. not in our lifetimes dude.

 

[Kamicosmos]

The scenerio you describe is the same with firearms. I go out in my backyard and start blasting away with a .44....neighbors are going to react, whether or not I let them shoot it too.


As far as explosives go....aren't they regulated much like firearms? IE, if you want it, you can get it, for the most part?

I mean....gunpowder is an explosive, and I have several pounds of it on my reloading bench...

And I cast my vote too in the Freedom sense, if we want it...dang it, we're Americans so we should be able to buy it!

 

[Mark Tyson]

I think it makes sense to have safe storage regulations for explosives, given that they can be pretty unstable. I think the founding fathers would have approved of similar measures for cannon ammo and powder back in the revolutionary era.

 

[Linux&Gun Guy]

I think the founding fathers would have approved of similar measures for cannon ammo and powder back in the revolutionary era.

Carefull that sounds a lot like 'sensible gun laws'

Storage is important for explosives however mostly no hobbyist stores any for more than a week or so. Gunpowder is not and explosive. Its a propelent. Explosives are things like TNT, AP, RDX ext 10g uncontained gunpowder can't blow your hand off AP can.

Also while explosives are no use from burglers they are great against government if TSHTF

 

[MagKnightX]

Hmm. I'd have to say I support explosives rights, to a degree. Not letting everyone go down and buy ten pounds of C4. You must be licensed, but to be licensed only means you must have a NICS check and a safety course, much like hunting licenses except a little stricter.

 

[Derek Zeanah]

Yeah, I support them. Within reason.

My neighbor thinks it's a good idea to take an ounce of silver and create silver fulminate? Uhhhhh. No. Wants to make nitro using a half-gallon of glycerine per batch to "save time?" Uhhhh. Hell no.

Moving from dinitrotolulene to trinitrotolulene? Nope. And on and on. There's a reason that explosive manufacturing plants have safety features designed into the buildings, and that reason can't be forgotten IMHO.

Now, that's not to say it's not reasonable. I think blasting caps and det cord should be available in a perfectly free country. But I'm not sure I trust the 17 year-old down the street with tha manufacture of HE...

 

[MeekandMild]

I seem to recall a story about young Edison, or was it Bell, getting picked up by his ears and getting thrown off a train for something like this a hundred plus years ago???

 

[larry_minn]

I think it makes sense to have safe storage regulations for explosives, given that they can be pretty unstable. ...

Just what type of explosives are you talking about? How old and how stored?
Have you ever tried to handle a 1 gallon jug of gas? How about a LP tank? Talk about unstable.

 

[BluesBear]

It was Tommy A. Edison suffered a hearing loss after being struck about the head and grabbed by the ears after nearly destroying the baggage car.

 

[zahc]

My grandpa tells stories of how they used to use dynamite to remove stumps. They just went down to the hardware store and signed a few papers and walked home with it. Used properly it made removing stumps extremely easy and fast.

 

[Hkmp5sd]

I think we are looking at two different things. Apples and oranges, so to speak.

A person that has never touched a firearm can take a firearm into their apartment, violate every safety precaution in the book, bounce the gun off the wall, throw it in the mircrowave or whatever, and never blow up the building. He might manage to injure or kill a few neighbors before the law arrives, but will not cause all that much damage.

Even experienced EOD types make mistakes and blow themselves up with explosives.

 

[Jason Demond]

I vote yes, as long as they are proficient with the safe handling of high explosives!