Skulptor
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I have seen a few "hammer style" and they all look the same. What would be the better/best one?
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I need a bullet puller. Is that any difference?
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Pretty much all the same.
Except the Quinetic's.
http://www.quineticscorp.com/How_it_works.asp
It uses a spring clip to hold the collet sections together and releases with a partial twist of the cap.
All the others use an 0-ring.
rc
Except the Quinetic's.
http://www.quineticscorp.com/How_it_works.asp
It uses a spring clip to hold the collet sections together and releases with a partial twist of the cap.
All the others use an 0-ring.
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jcwit
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My only suggestion is to buy the RCBS one as they give a forever warrenty, which is handy for a plastic hammer.
Well, I had a RCBS plastic one break on me. And I checked the RCBS warranty, and they don't cover it, as far as I can tell. Neat, huh? Can someone tell me I'm wrong? I was in a bind, and found one of the quenetics at the local wally world. It was the only one in town, but I still use the RCBS collets in it. The broken o-ring style that came with the quinetics is garbage. Even though it broke, and even though they are both just plastic hammers, I still think the RCBS is a better unit.
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tightgroup tiger
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I like the collet type pullers myself. They mount on top of your press and are probably 3 times quicker than the Kinectic type (hammer type).
But it depends on what type of bullet you are pulling because a collet puller can't grip the dome on say a 9mm round nose unless there is enough of the straight part of the bullet for it to get ahold of.
You do have to buy the collet type per caliber though, a Kinetic type will work on anything. That's the trade off.
But it depends on what type of bullet you are pulling because a collet puller can't grip the dome on say a 9mm round nose unless there is enough of the straight part of the bullet for it to get ahold of.
You do have to buy the collet type per caliber though, a Kinetic type will work on anything. That's the trade off.
Skulptor
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This leads me to another thought:
I do not have one yet, to see if this is possible, but, could a "heavier duty" one be built, simply, from, say, pvc?? It's just a thought. I'm one of those guys that likes to "create" a better wigget or way of doing things. (probably why I am a artist
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Have any of you looked into this? If not, after I buy one, so as to not totally reinvent the mousetrap, I'll see what I can come up with. But if any of you have, I'd like to know.
So as it stands, looks like I'll buy an RCBS.
Just saw your post Tiger so I decided to edit. Unfortunately, 9mm fmj's are what I have to pull.
I do not have one yet, to see if this is possible, but, could a "heavier duty" one be built, simply, from, say, pvc?? It's just a thought. I'm one of those guys that likes to "create" a better wigget or way of doing things. (probably why I am a artist
)Have any of you looked into this? If not, after I buy one, so as to not totally reinvent the mousetrap, I'll see what I can come up with. But if any of you have, I'd like to know.
So as it stands, looks like I'll buy an RCBS.
Just saw your post Tiger so I decided to edit. Unfortunately, 9mm fmj's are what I have to pull.
Alright, you're wrong
I broke my RCBS puller when trying to knock out short jacket 308 bullets and the slug came out of the jacket. I kept carefully but with increasing force trying to whack to try to get the jacket out and it broke.
I sent the puller to RCBS and in 3 days got a new one.
Three years later and lots of bullets pulled and its still going strong.
ScratchnDent
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I dunno. I bought the least expensive one that I could find about 10 years ago, and it still works fine. I'm pretty sure it is the RCBS...it's green, lol.
I have the Quinetics and it works great, it is very durable.
jcwit
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Well I had one break awhile back. They replaced it at N/C. Did all this with a phone call to their customer service, did not return anything.
BTW their phone number is 1-800-533-5000 and its free, very easily found using google and typing in RCBS.
bigfinger76
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I'm actively using a Quinetics puller as we speak. Seems durable enough.
Pulling 50 bullets is a PITA!
Pulling 50 bullets is a PITA!
Captaingyro
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I broke the screw-on cap to the RCBS puller a couple of years ago. I was using a big chunk of oak as an anvil, and just barely missed off to one side. The edge of the cap caught the edge of oak (couldn't do that again in a million years) and shattered.
I called RCBS the next day to request a new cap. The guy asked what happened, and I told him, "Well, my dog was downstairs in the shop last night pulling bullets, and, wouldn't you know it..."
Got the new cap in a couple of days.
I called RCBS the next day to request a new cap. The guy asked what happened, and I told him, "Well, my dog was downstairs in the shop last night pulling bullets, and, wouldn't you know it..."
Got the new cap in a couple of days.
Jim Watson
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I finally broke my original Quinetics and replaced it with a Midway a few weeks ago.
I can see no difference in them, I think they all come out of the same factory which just has some mold inserts with different brand names and supplies of different colored plastic.
The little spring loop holding the collet together on the original Quinetics was a pain in the neck. The O ring retainer is superior, in my opinion.
I have done a good deal of pulling with press shellholders but this new one has the little collet cut right and I can actually release the cap a quarter turn and shake the brass, powder, and bullet out into a can.
I can see no difference in them, I think they all come out of the same factory which just has some mold inserts with different brand names and supplies of different colored plastic.
The little spring loop holding the collet together on the original Quinetics was a pain in the neck. The O ring retainer is superior, in my opinion.
I have done a good deal of pulling with press shellholders but this new one has the little collet cut right and I can actually release the cap a quarter turn and shake the brass, powder, and bullet out into a can.
gamestalker
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I think I spent about $12 for an RCBS kinetic puller and it has seen a good deal of use and it's still working just fine. I did have to replace the "O" ring retainer on the shell holder after it gave out due to old age. But I replaced it with an "O" spring for about .50 cents, which will never wear out.
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Bull Nutria
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I bought a Lyman and it works fine , I have used it for 357,44mag, 30.06. 7mm 08. had it about a year. so far so good. I beat it on my carpet covered shop floor.
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lead slinger
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i got the frankfold one the shaft is metal
1hobie
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I also use the RCBS kinetic puller. I found out that if I flip the hammer over accidentally while having my head tucked and locked, I can destroy the hammer.
I also have this handy device: http://www.hornady.com/store/Cam-Lock-Bullet-Puller-1-Each/ and it works very well as long as there is enough of the bullet to lock on to.
Hobie
I also have this handy device: http://www.hornady.com/store/Cam-Lock-Bullet-Puller-1-Each/ and it works very well as long as there is enough of the bullet to lock on to.
Hobie
Clark
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I have two types of hammer [ blue and yellow].
I have three types of collet bullet pullers; RCBS, the Forster ,and the Hornady.
Either hammer works.
The Hornady cam over collet puller is just a little better than the Forster or RCBS.
I have three types of collet bullet pullers; RCBS, the Forster ,and the Hornady.
Either hammer works.
The Hornady cam over collet puller is just a little better than the Forster or RCBS.
Jim Watson
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I have a Hornady Cam Lock press puller in addition to my impact puller.
You have to have a collet for each caliber but it will pull about any jacketed bullet that has even a little full diameter section showing. (If they are old or tight, it helps to run them through the seating die and driving them down a little to break the bond.)
It is not much use on cast bullets.
You have to have a collet for each caliber but it will pull about any jacketed bullet that has even a little full diameter section showing. (If they are old or tight, it helps to run them through the seating die and driving them down a little to break the bond.)
It is not much use on cast bullets.
codefour
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I broke my RCBS bullet hammer and I called them. They advised me to ship it in and they would replace it. So, I bought another RCBS bullet hammer. I broke the second one. So I bought a third and mailed the first two in.
RCBS sent two (2) deluxe bullet hammers with the different size collets at no charge. So now I have three.
I have NEVER had a problem with RCBS customer service; ever.
A couple of years ago, I bought an RCBS Pro 2000. The linkage on the Uniflow Powder measure was a tad rusty along with the metering drum. So, I E-mailed them with the problem. In two days, I received a complete powder activated linkage assembly and drum. Then they sent another set with a letter. The letter said they wanted to confirm I got my origianl parts request and they were not sure I received the new items.
I called RCBS. I told them I had received the extra parts. I told the RCBS tech I was going to send them the extra parts back and I would gladly pay the shipping. The tech replied, "are you happy". I replied I was very happy. The tech replied, "keep them, we want out customers to be satisfied." This made me a life time RCBS customer.
FROGO207
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I have a Frankfort Arsenal hammer type puller and a Hornaday Cam Lock puller. they both work well and both have their strong points. If you can get only one the hammer type will work but is a pain on some rounds that are hard to pull. I would consider the collet type an upgrade as pulling lead and pistol bullets usually do not work well.
MtnCreek
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RCBS collet puller is nice for working up new loads. I typically load groups of 10 ea so I have good velocity info. Sometimes that will leave me with several cartridges that I either don't need to shoot because velocity or impacts were all over the place or I might have several cartridges that are getting a little too hot. With the collet puller, I pull the bullet, adjust the powder charge and re-seat the bullet to the same depth using the puller. Pretty handy IMO.
Another trick with the RCBS kinetic puller (maybe works with others too) is that if you have trouble fumbling around with the three piece case holder with the little O-ring holding it together.
You can use a standard shell holder that you use on your press (Lee includes them with their die sets). Just make sure the insertion gap is pointed toward the handle so when you swing the hammer, the case does not slide toward the gap and off the shell holder.
Try it out, you might prefer it. YMMV. It works for me so if I need to pull a bunch of the same bullets, I go that way. If it's just one bullet, I use the 3-piece holder.
You can use a standard shell holder that you use on your press (Lee includes them with their die sets). Just make sure the insertion gap is pointed toward the handle so when you swing the hammer, the case does not slide toward the gap and off the shell holder.
Try it out, you might prefer it. YMMV. It works for me so if I need to pull a bunch of the same bullets, I go that way. If it's just one bullet, I use the 3-piece holder.
Clark
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A nice thing about collet bullet puller dies is that I can put de capping stems in them or put pin gauges in them for compressing powder.
I'd used a RCBS kinetic puller for years for my handgun calibers (more often than I'd like to admit ) and it's worked great.
I've never had to do large quantities; never more than 10-25 pieces at a time so it was quick and painless.
I did, however, have a friend who had reason to pull 500 125 gr .357's and used a kinetic puller. In his opinion, and I agree, it was not the best tool for that kind of high volume use. Not because it didn't work but because of the time it took.
I've recently started loading for .223 Rem and one thing I've noticed is, the kinetic tool relies on bullet mass to be most effective. With the lighter bullet weights associated with this caliber the tool loses much of that effectiveness.
5-10 whacks (or more) on my .223's with the kinetic puller led me to purchase a collet puller which is MUCH quicker and IMO suited to higher volume use.
) and it's worked great. I've never had to do large quantities; never more than 10-25 pieces at a time so it was quick and painless.
I did, however, have a friend who had reason to pull 500 125 gr .357's and used a kinetic puller. In his opinion, and I agree, it was not the best tool for that kind of high volume use. Not because it didn't work but because of the time it took.
I've recently started loading for .223 Rem and one thing I've noticed is, the kinetic tool relies on bullet mass to be most effective. With the lighter bullet weights associated with this caliber the tool loses much of that effectiveness.
5-10 whacks (or more) on my .223's with the kinetic puller led me to purchase a collet puller which is MUCH quicker and IMO suited to higher volume use.
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